• mrmule@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    Funny, everyone perceives China to be some socialist giant. I just spent a week there and it’s more capitalist and consumer centric than anything I’ve ever seen. Certainly more than Singapore, USA, UK. All the brands x all the shopping. It’s not a tourist spot, it’s a shopping experience.

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      everyone perceives China to be some socialist giant

      No they don’t.

      You’re not the only one with functioning eyes.

      I don’t even remember seeing a person actually arguing China is in any way communist. Just like people don’t argue that NK is a democracy despite them calling themselves one.

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          Holy shit you can’t be that childish.

          Okay, let’s go with “socialist” then because you’re so childish that you’re pretending like the form of socialism China is known to claim to be isn’t communism.

          If you have to pretend to be that stupid, then perhaps you’re not in a good position, argument-wise.

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              What is sad is people like you who can’t back up the things they say, and don’t even try to.

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                China is a unitary communist state led by the CCP that self-designates as a socialist state.

                All I’ve said is that in my personal experience visiting China this socialist state feels more capitalist than many other countries due to the insane amount of consumerism and mass consumption.

                This is due to reform and opening up in 1978 and a burgeoning middle class with significant purchasing power.

                I’m not belittling China with these facts, I’m merely observing what has happened.

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      6 days ago

      I’m here right now and can confirm, shopping is great here. Also, the McDonald’s grilled chicken sandwich needs to come to America.

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      sure, let’s implement their state-directed economy then. seem to be working quite well.

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    7 days ago

    If only we had something shitty and easily spreadable at hand that could be applied to the screen on order to inconvenience the operator of the extortion device.

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    6 days ago

    So late stage communism is the same as late stage capitalism. Toilet paper for me but not for thee.

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    7 days ago

    You’ve always paid for TP in China. At least now there’s a way to get it for free. I see this as an improvement.

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      Yeah i came to say this. There’s no toilet paper in most of China. Some fancier shops may have it but most don’t. Even McDonald’s in China doesn’t have toilet paper most of the time.

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      On one hand, the government can absolutely afford to piss money away on stolen toilet rolls or whatever. On the other hand, this locking-down only happened because some people couldn’t be trusted and did the stealing in the first place. If everyone had respect for public amenities this likely wouldn’t have happened

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        It’s the old people. They still remember famine and live like they’re going to go without any day now. Honestly how randomly china manages stuff the old people are probably right.

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    6 days ago

    And you need a phone to view them. It would be quite shitty if you don’t have one, or the battery just decided to die on you.

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    7 days ago

    The solution to putting ads in bathrooms is that they can be easily defaced.

    Unless China is crazy enough to record their people in the bathroom, which I wouldn’t put past them.

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    7 days ago

    Coming to you from the country where HOAs are funded by ad monitors installed in almost every elevator in commercial/residential high-rises, and public restrooms (even in the hospital!) never stock toilet paper because “people will steal it” (not joking)? Color me surprised…

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        Don’t remind me that… I was taking a stool sample at a Chinese hospital just 2-3 months ago (allegedly the best hospital in China, btw); my Americanized brain was not able to handle… what I had to do to

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      I’ve been to China many times, and this is arguably the least offensive TP situation.

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      6 days ago

      You’ve always had to pay for TP in China. Free toilet paper in public restrooms is exceedingly rare. Same with hand soap. So honestly this is an improvement. The west got this one right I’m afraid.

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        How? I mean, is there a paper-machine in every stall or do you buy a roll before you go? It sounds so absurd, but definitely something to know before visiting China, which still is on my bucket-list

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          Get a new bucket list. Unless that bucket it the poo-paper bucket next to poo hole in the ground.

          As to how either have money or bring your own TP.

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          Yes you literally need to bring wipes around with you. Things are slowly changing but for a long time there was no TP in any bathroom stall outside of fancy hotels and maybe high end restaurants.

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            Weird. But…why? Just “because” or theft? I’d bet that resulted in many silly situations with foreigners visiting 😁 And thanks for the info!

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    7 days ago

    When will people learn that any advertising that occurs during extortion like this is the focal point of hate and fear?

    This is like anti-advertising.

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        It’s not “they count”, it’s a working conversion. Which is why it’s being stuffed everywhere.

        Recognition absolutely trumps everything. You’ll be more suspicious of a noname good thing looking good and cheap than of recognizable bad thing looking bad and expensive.

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        7 days ago

        In store:

        Clerk: "Well, then… I’d guide you to ShinyBrand. They tick all the marks for what you’re looking for and…

        Customer: aren’t those the guys that made me watch a 7 minute unskippable ad, when I was in town on a public toilet suffering a spontaneous and explosive diarrhea, while waiting for a new piece of toilet paper to wipe my sore ass from all that shit?!

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          There’s been countless studies on this. That’s not how our brains work. After the short term, or a scant few outstanding ones that stay with you, the only thing left long term is the brand recognition. That steers your choices when you buy things.

          Put simply, people don’t have the mental capacity to keep a full list of every company that advertised to them in a shitty way in the front of their minds constantly, beside everything else required for daily life.

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    7 days ago

    This is an improvement. A lot just don’t have any paper at all because they are afraid people will steal it and bring it home