Maybe OP knew all along that they wanted to use the previous package list to upgrade and fetch the new one after! Maybe we’re all actually inverting it…
(I’m just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)
(I’m just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)
No problems anywhere you can always install older versions from a repo.
Upgrade -> update two days ago and then again today will leave me with exactly the same packages as it would if I ran it correctly the first time and then not at all today. Just the state of two days ago.
If you can’t remember one or two commands then you are in fact stupid. With that said, Linux is for everyone.
There are distros that have auto updates as a feature they ship (Linux Mint comes to mind). There are distros that are basically impossible to break and there are distros where you are responsible for building your own system and keeping it functioning. It all depends on your own needs. Linux gives you the freedom to choose and there are more than one way to do things.
On linux, you can do what you wish. You can use a desktop environment with a GUI software center that pops up a notification that prompts you to install updates. Or update by opening the software center and selecting the ones you want. Or use the terminal commands. Or write an alias so you can type “update” and have it execute all your commands in the right order. Or script it to run silently in the background on an automated schedule.
And you can use your computer during updates, there’s no mandatory update during shutdown/boot.
If I try to update my GPU while I’m running a game sometimes it falls back to integrated graphics and gets slow+warm til I restart. That’s a fuckup I just couldn’t make on windows. Sorry, checkmate fosscommie.
fun fact: GPU drivers on Windows run in userspace, because MS got fed up with all the blue screens they caused and kicked them out of the kernel. if the GPU driver crashes, the screen will go dark for a second and then flick back on. if the GPU driver can’t restart then Windows will fall back to software rendering.
On Mint I set up an automatic update schedule and have been double checking it when I think to. All GUI, no terminal commands. So far it’s been seamless. (Knock on wood)
The poster would be more convincing if you hadn’t inverted
apt-get updateandapt-get upgrade…Maybe OP knew all along that they wanted to use the previous package list to upgrade and fetch the new one after! Maybe we’re all actually inverting it…
(I’m just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)
No problems anywhere you can always install older versions from a repo.
Upgrade -> update two days ago and then again today will leave me with exactly the same packages as it would if I ran it correctly the first time and then not at all today. Just the state of two days ago.
😭😭
I mean technically you did “update” the OS. It wasn’t a particularly useful command by going second, but I bet it was fast.
If you run it like that every day you will always be one day behind in packages. Not realy that big of a problem (unless on an internet facing server)
It’s fine! You were trying to show how Windows is better because you can’t make a mistake like that and succeeded!
I’m joking
I mean, it’s definitely faster this way around
It accurately got them backwards, the same way I always do. :)
Thank you, I mostly use pacman but have Debian (rasbian?) on raspberry pi and was fully willing to believe I’d been updating it wrong this whole time
That’s the best part of this post. Windows is fully automatic, while on Linux you need to tell apart two terminal commands with confusing naming.
Not necessarily. On Arch it’s just “sudo pacman -Syu” and on Fedora it’s just “sudo dnf update”.
I just type “yay”.
I just type “paru”.
I just type help
I just click the “Install Updates” notification when it pops up.
See, it’s super easy on Linux, just different on every distribution.
If you’re too stupid to remember one or two commands there are GUI applications available where you can click “a button” to update your system.
Or make an alias with the update command and name it “update”. This works on every distro.
Ah yes, the way to advocate for Linux is calling users stupid.
If you can’t remember one or two commands then you are in fact stupid. With that said, Linux is for everyone.
There are distros that have auto updates as a feature they ship (Linux Mint comes to mind). There are distros that are basically impossible to break and there are distros where you are responsible for building your own system and keeping it functioning. It all depends on your own needs. Linux gives you the freedom to choose and there are more than one way to do things.
On linux, you can do what you wish. You can use a desktop environment with a GUI software center that pops up a notification that prompts you to install updates. Or update by opening the software center and selecting the ones you want. Or use the terminal commands. Or write an alias so you can type “update” and have it execute all your commands in the right order. Or script it to run silently in the background on an automated schedule.
And you can use your computer during updates, there’s no mandatory update during shutdown/boot.
If I try to update my GPU while I’m running a game sometimes it falls back to integrated graphics and gets slow+warm til I restart. That’s a fuckup I just couldn’t make on windows. Sorry, checkmate fosscommie.
Curious what happens in windows now
fun fact: GPU drivers on Windows run in userspace, because MS got fed up with all the blue screens they caused and kicked them out of the kernel. if the GPU driver crashes, the screen will go dark for a second and then flick back on. if the GPU driver can’t restart then Windows will fall back to software rendering.
Which is what you see happening when updating or reinstalling a gpu driver.
Funny thing is, gpu drivers can still cause a bsod by causing fuckups in the directx driver, which ive seen happen :')
On Mint I set up an automatic update schedule and have been double checking it when I think to. All GUI, no terminal commands. So far it’s been seamless. (Knock on wood)
You think ive touched the apt commands in linux…?
I mean, youre right, but thats because i like to be hands on. But i dont have to if i wanted :p
You dont though. Most linux also have an automatic/GUI option.
Fully Automatic Update Against Your Will.
Wait I’m confused, did OP invert it or did you?
Op inverted.
apt updateupdates the local package cache of apt so it knows what packages have updates.apt upgradethen installs those updates.