Just a little thought I wanna discuss.
Unlike the more massive social media or the real world where theres not many leftists and we are gladly more united Lemmy and its left leaning tendencies with the instances providing natural cult grouping tendencies. Add to that the matrix in groups there and we all seem to be making a thing out of how to anger each other. How to troll each other or annoy x or y instance.
I hate this.
Living in an extreme right wing nation I know no other anarchist. A few left wingers. Even the libs here are right wing extremists by the standards of a western nation. I hold dear any solidarity.
I support unions here even when everyone there is a religious fundamentalist who wants sharia law bc they still qantnto improve the conditions of the working class.
Many folks here, who again I don’t have any hate for, I see intending these fights and dramas. Having the goal to be banned from x or y community or instance.
- Why!?!?
- What do you gain?
- What is the desire here??
In my experience, we don’t have quite that many leftists trying to rile each other up. What often happens is that some people want to character assassinate some others due to previous dislikes or because they oppose one of their core beliefs, so they try to blow up any “impurities” they can find in order to turn people against them. You can see it with people who get short term bans from leftist places and then get into year-long grudges.
Generally I would suggest people start ignoring people who constantly post and try to stir up drama about whole instances or specific subgroups of lemmy users. For example, I dislike intensely, like threads.net, hilariouschaos and lemmygrad and yet you don’t see me constantly opening drama threads about them.There’s some caveats in this statement, but it by and large, it applies imho.
Yeah ‘my honor has been slighted and so i must now escalate’ is quite common.
Character assassinations too.
But yesterday we had 2 fellow dbzer0 folks do this very trolling/ baiting. Which they also planned in the matrix channel. I think I instantly made clear I strongly disliked that. So did the community. And there was an apology luckily.
But we both know there’s one provocateur there. Who I personally always have had lovely chats with. But someone who likes to go looking for trouble.
And thats not an isolated case. Many similar profiles I’ve seen.
There’s a lot of .ml users that make accounts on db0 because so many instances blocked .ml and their users.
db0 also doesn’t do much to stop their instance from being abused like this.
Any examples?
Now this I haven’t seen at all
Libs claim tankies make sockpuppets in our instance, tankies claim libs make sockpuppets in our instance. It’s just inability to comprehend the anarchist perspectives
I can say I have, used to see a lot of propaganda from my country being constantly crossposted from ml and hexbear, since dbzero (among others) tolerates them, it helps them bypass the faulty defederation/blocking system that lemmy has so it kept appearing in my feed and I had to see accounts dedicated to defend the propaganda.
Until I moved to Piefed and was able to actually block them (also this instance defederated them).
Tribalism isn’t always bad, sometimes it’s needed to help take care of others by cutting off bad instances or instances that enable them. It’s not black and white.
I know the “provocateur” you’re talking about, and I’ve never seen them go to troll others outside their own space. I also haven’t seen many similar profiles either.