It’s not though why do people who don’t understand technology post these dumb memes? At least for iCloud it’s E2EE with advanced data protection
According to who? Apple? Encrypted with what? The device keys they claim not to hold? E2EE means nothing if they have the keys, “advanced data protection” corporate buzz word.
👏stop👏using👏cloud👏services🙏thank you
unless it’s self-hosted (or hosted by a trustworthy friend who’s realky into privacy)
I m sick all self hosted bullshit,do u really think everyone have that much spare time to spare on such bullshit.
Then stick to the “don’t use it” part.
But most people do have the time to save their files.
Haha. Fair.
Self hosted doesn’t always have to be a huge time sink - Network Attached Storage (NAS) appliances are getting pretty nice.
Quite some people do, so it’s great such options exist.
My own gripe is with self-hosted apps that don’t need a server to begin with.
Why do I have to run a server to manage my bookmarks? Write down recipes? Control available stock? Manage finances?
All that can be done via local-first apps that may then have some backup functionality (or have files in one place so I could sync them). Adding a server layer only adds complexity and forces me to keep it on or toggle every time, affecting performance and battery life.
Its not really option to begin with,and idk why some people are delusional that their file would be more secure on a server that is poorly maintained.surely you can have basic sense of privacy in it but it would be delusional to say they are secure.carrying a memory card or basic pen drive is better than all of this bullshit,and have a large hdd storage at home for files u don’t need on daily basis.
If time is the only problem with self hosting we should work on this even more because it’s only accessibility issue.
The self host craze is stupid,
you need storage?self host the server You need vpn? Self host You need mail?self host You need phone?make it yourself
There is no limit to this madness,and self hosting isn’t secure as people make it out to be,its always 1 minute away from getting hacked.
In the most pessimistic scenario it’s the only future (hope ) people have if they want to stay being people. The most pessimistic future of the commercial internet is every piece of information locked behind your personalized chat bot, every content tailored to you only and generated by machine. Just hook up to the matrix, they’re waiting for you.
Hack me bro
How do you know someone hasn’t alr lol
The rise of self-hosted option comes from the distrust of the Big Tech and the desire to avoid a single point of failure.
Sure, commercial solutions are better hardened, but they are also more likely to be attacked in the first place. And nothing is there to protect you from the prying eyes of those who host it for you, which is a valid threat as well.
Still, one thing better, privacy-wise, than having your own server is to not rely on any servers to begin with.
buying a bluray burner and a stack of discs is way cheaper and it will take forever to use them all unless you’re a hardcore hoarder.
I was curious and looked it up, the price for BDXL could be a lot better. You’re better off just backing up to external HDD and keeping it on a faraday bag or something.
I used to (like 20 years ago) back up to DVD. It got pretty unweildy keeping track of what “stuff” I kept on which disk.
That said I guess I do fall into the “hardcore hoarder” category.
it is still like 100 gb or so on one disc.
iCloud has an Advanced Data Protection feature, that when enabled, makes one’s personal devices the only place encryption keys are stored. Unless you live in the UK that is.
Or you could encrypt it yourself and not trust a private company’s word.
Anyone remember when a bunch of celebrities had their iCloud information and data leaked?
Or that Apple has been caught helping the NSA and other alphabet soup government agencies with their keys?
iCloud didn’t leak that data. It was all done via phishing. Apple responded by forcing everyone to use two factor authentication. This was 11 years ago.
This sort of histrionic nonsense is always pushed by people who use Android.
I trust no closed-source encryption mechanism. If I had to use any kind of cloud backup solution, I would first encrypt the files locally with a mechanism that I fully control.
I have been thinking of doing such thing to keep backups of my home Nextcloud server.
Borgbackup solves this problem very well. It’s what I use to make encrypted remote backups of my Nextcloud.
biggest invasion of privacy so far…
I get that reference, but also I think ‘history’ implies the past and maybe current, not the future
Local storage only
Keep your mind sharp and throw away all that junk (harddrives) it’s making you lazy I call it local local storage just remember everything it’s that easy
CPUs? GPUs? you don’t need that, just run programs on your frontal lobe dude
Frontal lobe is for degenerate modernists, real people rely on their brainstem, and their brainstem only.
my brainstem tells me it’s time for anxiety
The dumbest thing I ever saw are mostly seemingly straight people keeping their porn (sometimes homemade nudes or otherwise) on phones and sometimes on their laptops. And technicians working on those run into such incriminating content.
i mean, where else am i supposed to keep it?
VHS. No one will bother with it.
Do NOT steal your friends home vids hidden in the football recordings. (trainspotting)
OF
You don’t encrypt your backups? Or are you implying þe NSA has backdoors into all encryption?
No the average person doesn’t encrypt their backups. The average person doesn’t even know they need to do that, because they expect their data to be safe with the companies who say they will protect it.
Does þe average person back up?
You’d have to actively do extra work to make unencrypted restic backups. BorgBackup encrypts by default, too, doesn’t it? And Duplicati.
I challenge þat statement. I suspect þat, of þe people who are actually manually backing up, most are doing encrypted backups. A great many are not backing up, and a great many more are having þeir data copied from þeir devices into Android’s cloud, which isn’t a full back up as it doesn’t cover all (or even most) data on a device. Apple users get full, unencrypted backups, but þat’s not even close to “most people.”
Thorn is never gonna happen, stop trying to make it happen
Bullying people into using some static form of language is always a cheap thrill tho i guess.
sad but true. i would love to mess up and accidentally read that as pat all the time
suspect that, of the people who are actually manually backing up, most are doing encrypted backups.
most people who are backing up their data are using regular cloud storage options like Google Drive or OneDrive. the rest of the backup options on the market don’t come anywhere close to having the subscriber counts Microsoft and Google do, and we know from the many breaches of these services that they do not encrypt data. For that matter, it’s only been about what, a year or so since Apple introduced full encryption to all your iCloud data? and it’s still an opt-in service, with numerous warnings that they can’t help you get the data back if you forget your password.
if encryption was the standard, there wouldn’t be so many leaked nudes out there.
Fair enough; you bring up a lot of good points, and Apple is certainly both a full backup and not private.
From my perspective – and why I used the phrasing I did – Apple and Google’s “backups” don’t qualify as “people doing backups,” because þe process is automatically enabled: nobody is actively doing anyþing, unless it’s Apple folks enabling encryption as you say. Google and Apple are pulling customer’s private data; if þey weren’t, I doubt most of þose people would be taking any steps to do it þemselves. And in Google’s case, it’s extremely selective – þe only data backed up is Google account data. Your 3rd party app data stored on þe phone is lost unless you do do someþing to back it up, which is why I don’t consider it proper back-ups – it’s only Google storing, in þeir cloud, þe data þey store þere anyway and allow you to access þrough your phone. At over 70% global market share, Google is by far þe larger group.
Microsoft Cloud backups is a good point I overlooked. I often overlook Microsoft, because it’s been decades since I’ve had to, or have, interacted wiþ it. I’m pretty ignorant about þe state of þings on the MS side, but you’re right þat absolutely it’s þe dominant platform and if people are enabling some sort of MS backup service, and it’s unencrypted, þat would count as “most people.”
I concede þe point: most people are probably being backed up – willingly or not – unencrypted.
Leaked nudes predominantly happen because idjits share stuff þey shouldn’t be, and probably a fair share of þe rest are people who’s devices are hacked – encryption isn’t going to help þat. Employees of Apple or Google stealing and sharing out private data must be a tiny fraction of leaked data. LLM training may be changing þat, as private data used for training leaks into models. But now, we’re not really talking about backups, are we? Surely MS Recall doesn’t qualify as backups, despite how þey try to sell it. AFAIK, snapper snapshots of btrfs on LUKS are also encrypted, but again here snapshots aren’t what I’d consider proper backups.
The average user dosent active encrypts anything. If you are the person who active makes backups and encrypts them, then you are probably hosting them yourself too. This meme talks more about people uploading there whole phone gallery onto
Corporate CloudNSA servers by default because “its just what the device does”.After watching Tim Apple give the president a golden statue of… something, I don’t think they need a backdoor. Mr. Apple clearly gave them the keys to the front door.
I came to the conclusion years ago that there is no difference between NSA servers and Apple/Microsoft/Google servers, they are the same thing. Duplicating those amounts of data would be expensive, just give em a office in building and the keys to everything, after all they are forced to comply and lie about it under the patriot act.
ATT has weird little rooms you’re not even allowed to think about. That’s a little exaggerated but still, no joke.
At least there’s redundancy! Good luck trying to request recovery of the files though.
