I became a vegetarian for environmental reasons and I do think all animals deserve a dignified existance, but my criteria for that is obviously very different from yours.
Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around with people who’ve never encountered a live animal in their entire life. How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are.
Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around
Are you saying cows are not impregnated forcefully? Because artificial impregnation is used regularly by dairy farmers. Even when not, the time of impregnation, either by natural methods or artificially, is carefully selected with best milk production in mind.
How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are
For cows it’s usually a dry period of 60 days, before they are impregnated again.
I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make here. Are you implying that wild cows would also be pregnatant as much as possible?
I’d be interested in what your criteria for a dignified existence are. For example, what is your stance on the separation of cow and calf? This happens in organic farming too.
Regardless of the method of farming (organic or not) cows are slaughtered for meat at about 5 years of age, after bringing 2 or 3 calves into the world and about 15 years before their natural death. Do you regard that as a dignified existence?
My source is that my family owns an organic dairy farm and every single number you pulled is either wrong or out of context
Cows get pregnant about once per year. When we have an actual bull with the herd, that interval is even shorter because the bull won’t consider milk production at all. He’ll jump on as soon as he smells she’s in heat.
There’s nothing forceful about artificial insemination and every statement in that direction is extremist bullshit spread by Peta Terrorists and other lowlifes
Wild cows also get pregnant every year, yes. They need to produce as much offspring as possible so the herd doesn’t die out and when there’s a bull present and the cow goes into heat, then there’s nothing stopping them.
Cows on organic farms often live into their teens and are usually only slaughtered when they develop severe health problems. Our oldest one is 16 years old as of last month and you can easily tell that she’s an extremely old lady. Wild cows have a way shorter life expectancy because they get hunted down by predators or die of an infection as soon as they show any kind of weakness or old age.
A dignified existence for a cow is the ability to graze on fresh pastures, a roof over the head for bad weather, soft bedding for resting, a reasonablely sized herd for companionship and a painless death when her time has come.
Separation of cows and calves is your only argument that has any kind of merit, but honestly most cows take it pretty well. A lot of farmers are actually exploring concepts where mother and calf are kept together, but those usually result in higher maintenance cost and slightly lower milk yield. And customers are just not ready to pay the difference.
The thing that people like you always forget is that most farmers and especially organic farmers care a great deal about their kettles’ wellbeing and some of you would do well to remember that.
I became a vegetarian for environmental reasons and I do think all animals deserve a dignified existance, but my criteria for that is obviously very different from yours.
Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around with people who’ve never encountered a live animal in their entire life. How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are.
Are you saying cows are not impregnated forcefully? Because artificial impregnation is used regularly by dairy farmers. Even when not, the time of impregnation, either by natural methods or artificially, is carefully selected with best milk production in mind.
For cows it’s usually a dry period of 60 days, before they are impregnated again.
I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make here. Are you implying that wild cows would also be pregnatant as much as possible?
I’d be interested in what your criteria for a dignified existence are. For example, what is your stance on the separation of cow and calf? This happens in organic farming too. Regardless of the method of farming (organic or not) cows are slaughtered for meat at about 5 years of age, after bringing 2 or 3 calves into the world and about 15 years before their natural death. Do you regard that as a dignified existence?
My source is that my family owns an organic dairy farm and every single number you pulled is either wrong or out of context
Cows get pregnant about once per year. When we have an actual bull with the herd, that interval is even shorter because the bull won’t consider milk production at all. He’ll jump on as soon as he smells she’s in heat.
There’s nothing forceful about artificial insemination and every statement in that direction is extremist bullshit spread by Peta Terrorists and other lowlifes
Wild cows also get pregnant every year, yes. They need to produce as much offspring as possible so the herd doesn’t die out and when there’s a bull present and the cow goes into heat, then there’s nothing stopping them.
Cows on organic farms often live into their teens and are usually only slaughtered when they develop severe health problems. Our oldest one is 16 years old as of last month and you can easily tell that she’s an extremely old lady. Wild cows have a way shorter life expectancy because they get hunted down by predators or die of an infection as soon as they show any kind of weakness or old age.
A dignified existence for a cow is the ability to graze on fresh pastures, a roof over the head for bad weather, soft bedding for resting, a reasonablely sized herd for companionship and a painless death when her time has come.
Separation of cows and calves is your only argument that has any kind of merit, but honestly most cows take it pretty well. A lot of farmers are actually exploring concepts where mother and calf are kept together, but those usually result in higher maintenance cost and slightly lower milk yield. And customers are just not ready to pay the difference.
The thing that people like you always forget is that most farmers and especially organic farmers care a great deal about their kettles’ wellbeing and some of you would do well to remember that.
Or just spay and neuter