If Gavin Newsom is running against Hitler, it’s kind of important to vote for Newsom, whether or not he has “earned your vote.”
Your country would vote for Hitler, if he said the right things. That’s what he did to gain power in Germany.
This “we’re desperate, just vote for my candidate, nothing matters, it’s the only option we got” is how they do politics in authoritarian countries. And the candidate turns out to be a controlled opposition, destined to lose.
People need do more than the NPC in a RPG saying “just vote” and be done with their responsibility.
Also, spare us the sanctimonious bullcrap. This isn’t reddit.
If you feel the need to run an uninspiring candidate against a fascist that inspires his base, you’re not giving your all against fascism. Bring in someone who can inspire voters, rather than “second worst by as narrow a margin as we think we can get away with.”
Or admit that you would prefer second worst even if it means losing to hitler.
If you feel the need to run an uninspiring candidate against a fascist that inspires his base, you’re not giving your all against fascism. Bring in someone who can inspire voters, rather than “second worst by as narrow a margin as we think we can get away with.”
Yeah, true that. I don’t even like Gavin Newsom, that’s why I was offering a more credible way to pressure him to be better on particular issues if we do wind up in that awful situation where it’s Newsom vs. JD Vance or some stupid decision like that.
Or admit that you would prefer second worst even if it means losing to hitler.
I like how a particular type of commenter likes to make up total nonsense that no one is saying, and then throws down a challenge to “admit that” instead of… IDK, more or less any other way of engaging lol.
that’s why I was offering a more credible way to pressure him to be better
We saw how such pressure worked out with harris. Anyone who said that democrats had no business supporting genocide was assumed to be a tankie/russian/chinese/child/shill/republican/trumper/bot or whatever category was convenient for genocide supporting centrists use to dismiss people they hate for being to the left of netanyahu.
I didn’t call you alt-right. I was highlighting that you responded to a fair counterpoint (that I obviously agree about running better candidates in addition to pressuring the existing ones to be better) by just totally ignoring it and pivoting to another accusation unrelated to what we had been talking about.
Similar to this flow of conversation. See if it rings true:
Your country would vote for Hitler, if he said the right things. That’s what he did to gain power in Germany.
This “we’re desperate, just vote for my candidate, nothing matters, it’s the only option we got” is how they do politics in authoritarian countries. And the candidate turns out to be a controlled opposition, destined to lose.
People need do more than the NPC in a RPG saying “just vote” and be done with their responsibility.
Also, spare us the sanctimonious bullcrap. This isn’t reddit.
“Just vote” is kind of an election day strategy.
The whole part where the actual work happens to put a decent person on the ballot instead of corporate drone n+1 is right now!
If you feel the need to disagree or lecture against the idea of voting against Hitler in an election, I’m not sure what to tell you lol
If you feel the need to run an uninspiring candidate against a fascist that inspires his base, you’re not giving your all against fascism. Bring in someone who can inspire voters, rather than “second worst by as narrow a margin as we think we can get away with.”
Or admit that you would prefer second worst even if it means losing to hitler.
Yeah, true that. I don’t even like Gavin Newsom, that’s why I was offering a more credible way to pressure him to be better on particular issues if we do wind up in that awful situation where it’s Newsom vs. JD Vance or some stupid decision like that.
I like how a particular type of commenter likes to make up total nonsense that no one is saying, and then throws down a challenge to “admit that” instead of… IDK, more or less any other way of engaging lol.
We saw how such pressure worked out with harris. Anyone who said that democrats had no business supporting genocide was assumed to be a tankie/russian/chinese/child/shill/republican/trumper/bot or whatever category was convenient for genocide supporting centrists use to dismiss people they hate for being to the left of netanyahu.
I don’t know what I expected, replying to that comment lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA
I say genocide is bad, and you call me alt-right for saying it. Thank you for the absolutely perfect illustration of exactly what I was talking about.
I didn’t call you alt-right. I was highlighting that you responded to a fair counterpoint (that I obviously agree about running better candidates in addition to pressuring the existing ones to be better) by just totally ignoring it and pivoting to another accusation unrelated to what we had been talking about.
Similar to this flow of conversation. See if it rings true:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA&t=21s
Yeah, that totally wasn’t your intent.