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    This, but unironically.

    I will never understand how the United States, formerly supposedly the greatest democracy in the world (yea yeah, I know) is so eager to cede patriotism to the scummiest racists and lowlifes.

    Punching Nazis is American. Welcoming immigrants with open arms is American. Fuck those inbred bastards who use the flag as a symbol of hate.

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      Welcoming immigrants with open arms is American.

      Sadly so is being anti-immigrant. The Alien and Sedition Acts were created less than fifteen years after the Constitution. The Know Nothing Party was a popular anti-immigrant party in the mid 1800s. From then to the mid 1900s were, the Chinese Exclusion Act (1882), The National Origins Act (1924), Japanese Concentration Camps (WW2), Operation Wetback (1954), and those are just the big ones.

      The ideals that you have for the US are noble, I hold them too. It’s amazing what the US could be if we (especially our politicians) actually held ourselves to those ideals while addressing our current problems.

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        Of course.

        My point here is that, you can determine your own message. You can choose what to focus on. Of course, we all know what racism is as American as AR15s and Apple pie. But, as a society, it’s a choice to communicate “racism is an American value” or, something else.

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      formerly supposedly the greatest democracy in the world

      Before or after manifesting their destiny over half the continent?

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      What mattered was that the US was moving forwards and not backwards. We were building a more inclusive America for all.

      That’s no longer the case.

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      It’s the people at the top brainwashing and propagandizing the capitalist-enslaved class. We should start at the top and remove those un-American racist billionaires

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    Democrats could instantly and easily sidestep a lot of transphobic fear mongering by simply saying, “you don’t have to like or even understand it, but its these people’s right as free Americans.”

    I don’t think they’re interested in doing that, though.

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    And remember: if your truck didn’t come from the factory with truck nuts, then it is trans. I don’t make the rules.

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      Exactly we don’t need these arbitrary identities separating us. Patriotism leads to Nationalism. It reinforces in-group and out-group mentality that can be readily co-opted by the right wing to manipulate people into fearing their fellow working class.

      It also blinds people to the flaws of the country they identify with; it causes people to become defensive when it is rightfully criticized by taking it as a personal attack on their identity.