• Cherry@piefed.social
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    I don’t watch the news…is there something happening about this amendment or is this just a meme?..i can no longer tell the difference.

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    They have no actual morals or beliefs. They are purely a cult and will get in line and ‘believe in’ what they are told.

  • CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca
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    More like:

    50 school shootings later…

    Dem- we should have sensible licensing and handling rules. Nothing that interferes with the second amendment.

    GOP - you hate the second amendment!!!

    Trump - “take the guns first, due process later” - real quote

    GOP - well, he didn’t mean it like that but we support him regardless of this, the rape, the bigotry and the corruption… better than anything the Dems have to offer.

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      I never really thought about it until recently but this is more true than you know. Think about the cuck kink. Just imagine the type of couple that is usually portrayed in the scenario.

      Granted my knowledge of it is low as it’s not my thing, but in my minds eye its always a couple presented as wealthy and a “bull” from a lower economic background. Not necessarily poor mind you, just presented as economically less powerful.

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    At times, it does seem like there’s only a single amendment - The Second Amendment – in some peoples’ little bubble. For me, I’m a lover not a fighter, so I’d much rather use my speech and not my guns. But that’s just me.

    I literally had a conservative tell me that I have no right to protest anything “The President” aka Trump, is doing. I stayed calm but made sure to inform them that, in fact, peaceful protests are part of the very first amendment.

    • EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml
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      Why not both?

      I’m a fighter and a lover.

      I use guns, grow food, herbs and flowers. Raise and care for critters.

      I punch Nazis.

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        Violence begets violence in an endless cycle of everyone loses, and “using guns” is vastly different from the “second amendment” context I was referring to. But also, I’m not an internet tough guy, so it doesn’t really suit me to go around pretending I get physically violent with people over political disagreements.

        • hamsda@feddit.org
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          I do understand where you’re coming from, but judging from my personal experience with a friend who became a religious extremist (among other things), I don’t know if this is actually possible with some people.

          This is an honest plea for helping me understand and find a solution.

          I tried to talk about his religious views and the world and people for 1.5 years. Nothing helps. Words seemingly never reach this guy, except they reinforce his faith. He would also never go to therapy, as “therapists don’t want to help you, they just want your money”.

          He rather declared that he (and every human on earth) has been born without empathy and is unable to reach any acceptable moral values on his own and that raping and killing children is just part of his “good god, who’s love first and foremost” than accepting that literally anything he heard about his faith isn’t as good and pure as he sees it.

          He’s not my friend anymore, but

          • that does not make him any less of a religious extremist
          • that does not make him any less of a dangerous person for the people around him
          • he already has his new social circle, who’re all of the same opinion
          • you can’t force him to therapy or confinement until he hurts / kills somebody

          The things outlined above are only a small part of what he told me about his faith. I feel like this one is lost for good.

          To me it seems like there’s nothing anybody can do, we just need to wait until real bad shit hits the fan.

          • InvalidName2@lemmy.zip
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            Based on how you’ve phrased your comment, somewhere along the line a person or group of people convinced your friend that these religious extremist views were righteous and helped to foster that relationship with him that lead him further down (or even into) that path. He wasn’t born a religious extremist, in your own words “he became a religious extremist”.

            The truth is, it sounds like you’re asking for a solution to a specific situation, but a random internet stranger with no real insight into that situation, no knowledge of that extremist’s perspective and experience – it’s literally not possible for me to help you understand beyond very broad generalizations.

            However …

            People can change their minds. Maybe not everyone, but what’s certain is that they absolutely won’t if there’s no path that allows them to retreat from their extremist views/past when the call comes. Accountability may be necessary, but that opportunity to abandon old ideas needs to be clear of obstacles for the best chance of success at the start.

            It might help to realize that you personally may never be able to change that one specific extremist’s views. And even if you could, you might not be around at the right place and time to accomplish it. Focusing on that one extremist, in my opinion, is probably not the healthiest or most viable strategy.

            No way I’d have the time or motivation to write everything I’d like to say to you, but I’ll leave you with one anecdote (details intentionally obfuscated because the last thing I need is to be tracked down by 10th degree black belt sleuths with a penchant for extreme violence).

            There was a regular counter protester who liked to come to protests for “liberal causes” and confront random folks who were showing their signs. He was actually getting to know those folks, seeing that they were nice & decent people unlike what his media bubble suggested, he got to see that they all had differences of opinions but chose to focus on what they all agreed on, etc.

            Obviously everybody clapped and unicorns farted pots of gold, but the counter protester chilled the hell out significantly over time. He’s told various people at various times that he actually respects what the protesters are doing even though he disagrees on the points. I haven’t seen it, but I’ve been told he even responds to some of the most vile comments online in support of what those protesters are doing. He’s distanced himself from the MAGA bullshit and Trump support.

            The thing is, nobody sought him out, specifically, to change his mind. He’s the one who showed up. He didn’t turn into a card carrying registered Democrat liberal hippy. But we take the wins when and where we can get them.

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          I’m a lifelong martial artist.

          I use training only as a response or in controlled scenarios. I don’t consider a response violent unless done with anger or unwarranted aggression.

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            I’m a 12th generation samurai with military training in ballistics and massive missiles plus I have a PHD, as well as PHC, PHB, and PHA in when to use those particular sets of skills. So I get it, I do.

  • QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
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    Thing is, they don’t actually see Trump as their champion, they know he has done nothing for them. They just know Trump “makes Liberals mad”, and that’s as far as they care.

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      The analogy I like is that MAGA is like those high school seniors who have figured out that they are never going to college or get a good job. All they can do is disrupt and make everyone else miserable until graduation.

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      He’s their excuse to be their worst selves. Any criticism of him is an attack on their own chosen character failings.

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    Ok first of all I’m putting “no killing Charlie Kirks” on the list, so check off that line item