• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    6 months ago

    People keep trying to convince me it’s not evidence of two justice systems.

     

    But it is.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      It’s evidence that we live in corporatocracies masquerading as “democracies”. The 0.1%, shielded by the liability protections of the corporations they own, and their armies of lobbyists — they finance our politics, choose who ends up on the ballot, and shadow write most of our legislation, policies, and regulations.

      Trump is free because he is a part of that < 0.1%.

      The Boeing execs who oversaw systemic fraud, lied to the FAA, and murdered 166 people still ARE FREE AND RICH. Why? Because they are the 0.1%.

      The IPCC hosts fossil fuelled climate summits in fossil fuel exporting countries, inviting fossil fuel corporations and lobbyists to attend — at a scientific conference about how to solve the crisis they created and profited from! why? Because we live in corporatocracies.

      • NoFuckingWaynado@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        If any country’s government spied on its own people as much as big business does in America, people would flip out. But in America, big business really is the government.

        We are so fucked…

      • Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        Good thing guillotines don’t care about wealth, only the size of your neck.

        We’ll just have to make the hole slightly larger to fit fatter necks.

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 months ago

      It’s the subtle difference between a JUSTICE system and a LEGAL system.

      One aims to maintain law and order in society in a fair and equal way regardless of one’s status or situation.

      The other is a system gamed to benefit the richest and wealthiest individuals to get away with everything.

    • fossphi@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      I think this is a consequence of any (unregulated) capitalistic system in general. The system is founded on money, more money will give anyone more influence and power over the system

      • seaQueue@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        It’s a consequence of our “growth at all costs” take on capitalism. Capitalism is only livable for the average person when it’s kept in check by a strong government and corruption is vigorously prosecuted. We’ve decided that corruption just happens and there’s nothing we can do about it, and so there are no disincentives to corrupting government.

      • SupraMario@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        This has nothing to do with an economic system. This same shit is worse even in communist systems, and I’m not even going to try and point fingers at that system and say it is.

        The real reason is because of power, and a class system that protects its own.

    • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      Someone should look up the maximum sentence for what he’s been charged with. The current biggest hold-ups are not being able to make someone appear in multiple trials in different places simultaneously, and avoiding the appearance that the court is trying to interfere with an election.

      You don’t want the court to not care about the appearance of interfering with elections, or else you’ll have the GoP trying to get Democrat politicians on dubious charges that they’ll definitely not be guilty of but will definitely bury them in scandal and prevent them from campaigning effectively.

      • Krono@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        6 months ago

        You’re not wrong, these Trump trial judges are bending over backwards to avoid any grounds for mistrial. In one sense they are doing the right thing inside the legal framework, but look at the downsides.

        The public is watching how a rich and powerful man can game the system, even as a criminal defendant the system is working for him. Every incarcerated person can see the reality: they were treated with default brutality, but Trump is treated as royalty.

        And even worse, they are allowing Trump to delay every verdict until after the election. If he wins the election he pardons himself, this is a horrible precedent for our democracy.

      • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        6 months ago

        I’m fairly certain his conduct during the proceedings themselves would have landed me or anyone else in jail by now. (And/Or with a fine that required us to do more than lift up our couch cushions.)

        • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          (And/Or with a fine that required us to do more than lift up our couch cushions.)

          That’s a problem with the amount of fine being set by law and despite likely not being as wealthy as claimed, Trump still has enough money that $10k isn’t going to hurt him.

          Jailing him for contempt has all the same logistical problems imprisoning him is going to, but at a smaller, less secure facility.