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    They could stop charging gamers a subscription to play the paid games (they “own”) online.

    This could attract some customers that don’t want to deal with PC or don’t want to add fixed costs to their monthly or yearly bill.

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      They could stop charging gamers a subscription to play the paid games (they “own”) online.

      This is one of the key reasons why I own PS5, but I don’t play or invest in it. Even though couch gaming is much more comfortable for me.

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        I’m in the same boat.

        Elden Ring, Helldivers 2, many games I’d get on Sony PS Store that I just get on Steam because I want to “own” the full game not just the offline part of it.

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      Microsoft not being evil? Not going to happen. (Except for smokescreen purposes and amounts)

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        There was a time where it was worth the money because it was far and away better than any free online offering. That time was probably up to about 2010. Now that servers are paid for with digital game sales, it would behoove them to drop the fee. Instead, I think they’re just about to change the console market as we know it.

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          Instead, I think they’re just about to change end the console market as we know it.

          FTFY

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            Also accurate. But it’s looking like we’ll still have $500 machines called Xboxes and PlayStations, except they’ll just be fancy PCs. That’s my guess anyway.

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              Possibly. I can see Xbox backing out personally, and just putting their games on PC and the other consoles.

              Sony will probably carry on… and Nintendo likely has a detailed business plan for the next 100 years.

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                Sony’s already not carrying on. They’ve started putting their games on PC, which is a market that is, for the first time, larger than their console for the same game releases. Nintendo’s got another generation of hardware before they’ll need to change anything.

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                  Fair - I’d be surprised if they haven’t already been working on a ps6 for years though.

                  In my mind Nintendo is going to be more or less immune to the death of the console market. They did have done a really, really good job at making fun games since the 80s, and have also traditionally had the cheapest hardware (not that that will matter if the competition goes away). I might impulsively buy whatever Nintendo’s next console is just for Zelda or Metroid, even though Nintendo as a company pisses me off.

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                    Yeah, I’ll bet PS6 is business as usual but with an eye toward the future. Microsoft is already hinting that their next Xbox(es) are just going to be PCs, with talk of handhelds and additional storefronts.

                    I might impulsively buy whatever Nintendo’s next console is just for Zelda or Metroid, even though Nintendo as a company pisses me off.

                    Stay strong, brother. They only get to keep pissing you off because you keep handing them your money. There’s no shortage of metroidvania games right now, and even Zelda has a decent number of competitors now.

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                    If you wanna play Nintendo games and you hate their hardware or just the company (fair), have you heard of how well the steam deck runs an emulator?

                    Ive heard it’s actually pretty great, though i haven’t bought one myself. I started sniffing around when i wanted to get my nieces/nephews something to fight over for Christmas. initially was gonna be a switch, but they’re young and those controllers fall apart quicker than shit.

                    I’m not out here selling steam decks but like check it out if you haven’t and want a “console” rather than a pc solution. i think it’s worth looking into as the mod scene for the Sdeck is heating up too. Anyway comment over.

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                    That’s what they say publicly, yes. Because if they tell their customers right now that they plan to dramatically shorten that window, they’re shooting themselves in the foot early.

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              They already are just PCs and have been since the PS4/XBone. It’s all just slightly customized PC hardware inside.

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                Even as far back as the first xbox, I remember some people installing Linux on it. It’s also why Halo later came out for the PC, because porting it wasn’t that difficult. Iirc, the first xbox didn’t run any Windows kernel but it did use direct x.

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                They don’t run the same executables that Steam does though, and I think that’s what’s about to change.

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      I would actually consider getting one if that were the case. But no console maker will ever do that again - too many suckers willing to pay. Sony at least lets you play F2P games online without a sub.

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            Yea I realized a bit ago my kids are only playing fortnite and Roblox, I had no need to be paying for game pass ultimate for TWO accounts lol. Plus, they use steam big picture mode in the living room.