• febra@lemmy.world
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    First and foremost, this isn’t a 1000 year war. It’s a bit over 100 years at most. The colonization of Palestine started around 100 years ago. Israel was founded in 1948.

    Secondly, Kamala isn’t working towards achieving shit. Her government is literally still sending weapons to Israel as Israel is shooting at UN peacekeepers, burning people alive, attacking five different countries, and much more worse.

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        The jews are not Israel but Israel definitely wants people to keep conflating them that way.

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                  Unironically I’ve heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I’m going to assume you know what demographic they’re from, and that that’s not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don’t agree with nazis

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                    So its important to make distinctions between different groups of jews, and be aware of historical context, but only when those things are useful for defending the Zionist project. Got it. Thanks. And I haven’t voted on a single comment of yours beyond the first.

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        There are still indigenous Palestinian Jews in Palestine (and some are still anti-Zionist), and the “non-Jewish” Palestinians are for the most part simply the descendants of Palestinians who at some point converted from Judaism to Christianity or Islam.

        “Land without a people” my ass.

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          that was 15% of the population of Hebron (4th largest city in Palistine at that moment) at the time, you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s

          but also killed over a hundred Arabs, and the Jews in Hebron were taken out of the area by the British, not driven out by the violence.

          blatant denial of history, they were driven out again in 31 and 36, and the British were the ones who killed the vast majority of Arabs.

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            you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s

            So if there’s land that is not immediately occupied, that means it’s finders keepers?

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      I agree. Those who care about Palestine should vote for Kamala because Trump is fully pro-genocide; but implying that Kamala has a valid plan, or even an existing plan, to help Palestinians, is untrue. She’s going to do nothing or as little as possible.

      The choice is between evil and more of the same, it’s not between good and evil.

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      21 days ago

      Religious wars between Jews and Muslims have been going on for much longer than that.

      This is just its latest version