This is not my personal opinion, I know Gen Z men who voted for Harris. But the voter demographics really speak for themselves, and maybe now people will look at the radicalization of young men as a serious (but solvable) issue.

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      Empathy isn’t a zero sum game. It is, in fact, possible to care about women’s issues and men’s issues at the same time. A woman getting the support they need doesn’t take anything away from a man, nor does a man getting the support they need take anything away from a woman.

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        And yet these “all ____ matter” comments only come up when someone tries to take the spotlight away from white men. Women getting the support they need has been fought tooth and nail by men for fucking ages. The group that only just got the ability to have their own bank account doesn’t owe us fuck all in politeness especially when so many of us act like goddamn degenerates all the fucking time. They still struggle to even get healthcare that isn’t designed for men.

        What you’ve got in your comment is a deflection away from the real use of these things. It’s not clever, you’re just being an ass.

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          The original topic was about the radicalisation of men. One poster commented how it might feel that the democratic party doesn’t care about men’s issues. Another replied and tried to trivialize those issues. So some users advocate for empathy. And you reply with “but what about women?” Do women face issues? Absolutely. Arguably more than men, I don’t know. But that’s beside the point here. The topic was radicalisation of men, and a possible cause. I would argue, you’re acting like an ass right now.

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            And I’m pointing out that men have not been forgotten, they’re just whining because it’s not about them 100% of the time anymore and they need to get over themselves. Also, their sexism caused a lot of the problems that women face and are now having to do all this fucking work to fix.

            Boo-fucking-hoo.

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                I don’t think the person looking to listen to the historically margainlized group is the one lacking compassion. The people who are demanding said group be nice to them or they’ll leave them to the wolves, however…

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      I don’t know the solution, but I do know that self-hatred isn’t it.

      People face a myriad of assaults on their mental health every day. Virtue signaling and choosing to leave any subgroup behind just because you think someone else has it worse won’t lead to the outcome you hope it will.

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        Men aren’t being left behind, they’re just a bunch of fucking babies about maybe actually having to police their own behaviour. Women have been carrying the mental load for generations and now that we’re being asked to carry our fair share we do this shit.

        You’re not being left behind, you’re just being a asshole.

        Also, I’m a tall straight white male. Blond hair and blue eyes and everything. I don’t feel the least bit left behind. I feel embarrassed that I may have acted a certain way in the past, and it’s hard to overcome habits and normalized shitty behaviours. Instead of running from it and blaming everyone else for pointing out how my behaviour might have hurt someone I’m dealing with it and trying to be better.

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          I don’t give a fuck who you are. I didn’t ask, and it’s not relevant. And whatever you’re doing smacks more of “look how much better I am than you” than “I’m truly trying to be a better person.”

          Empathy makes you better, not self-hate and virtue signaling. People need help. All of them.

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            The bar is pretty low, it’s pretty easy to be a better person.

            Also this isn’t “self-hate”. It’s called introspection you spineless little weasel. Maybe you should hate yourself a little, kickstart a little humility in there.

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              It’s most certainly self-hate, you’re just too blinded by your own pick-me bs to achieve actual introspection. The gymnastics it takes to get from “I’m better because I say men make me sick” to “you’re bad and wrong because you advocate helping everyone” is priceless.

              Oh no, the child called me a spineless weasel! Someday you’ll come to terms with reality. Until then, maybe consider listening more and speaking less when you’re in over your head.

              You seem like you’re possibly capable of putting it all together eventually, once you gain some maturity. For now, though, this is farewell, as you don’t seem to actually have anything of value to add beyond singing your own praises and shitting all along your merry way.

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                To want to be a better person? Holy shit, you’re awful, huh?

                I’ll just be out here actually appreciated by other people instead of moaning that I’m being asked for too much when I’m expected to operate with a baseline level of respect.