• Teppichbrand@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    Quitting meat will lead to a little less suffering, destruction and exploitation. It costs you just some self-reflection and a change of habit. But Uriel238, obviously a fellow leftist, refuses this. He wants others to change first. But they, as you said, also will not. Prisoners dilemma, crab mentality.

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        7 hours ago

        Meat is a luxury for the rich worldwide. In China, more and more people are living the standard of living that we have been exemplifying for decades. Here in Germany, meat consumption is falling sharply and that is important and good. I can’t force the world to do anything, I can only take responsibility for my own actions and ask others to do the same. Because it’s the right thing to do, and I’m sure you feel that too.

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          since you clearly understand that you were lying, you should just apologize for the lie instead of trying to explain it away.

          your second link relies heavily on poore nemecek 2018, a study I don’t trust to tell me the co2e of co2.

          I do take responsibility for my actions. I’m not responsible for what others do.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      19 hours ago

      Yes, of course, the revolution hinges entirely on my behavior and no one else’s.

      Your unquantified adjectives are doing a fuckton of heavy lifting. Tread lightly, qualified-friend, you are one step away from a block. Think of me whatever you will, but your manipulative bullshit will not be tolerated beyond this warning.

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        6 hours ago

        Hey, I don’t want to insult or manipulate you. I don’t want to get blocked as well. I’m just arguing for responsibleness and compassion, which i think is really important right know.
        What you feel might be Cognitive Dissonance, the BBC wrote a great article about it. I felt it as well, I wasn’t born a vegan. Thanks for the debate.