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      Half of those people lost, and one of the winner’s reelection campaign was going so badly that he had to resign. Meanwhile, the, “far-left,” alternative to them had more favorable polling numbers in the last 3 elections. After the last 10 years, I’m not sure there’s any serious way to argue that the center-left are the only ones who have a shot of winning.

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          Sanders. His polling numbers were better against Trump than the last three Democratic candidates, but the party leadership organized to block him in favor of centrist liberals. Biden was the only one of those liberals who was able to eke out a win against Trump, and he was on track to lose worse than Carter lost to Regan when he dropped his reelection bid.

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      Liberals are not left wing, the left starts at the abolition of capitalism. Without that they cannot back up any concept of equality or equity.

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        I think you’re confusing the left with far left idealists. “Right wing” and “left wing” are symbolic terms that once represented the right and left sides of the French National Assembly during the French Revolution.

        So the “left” is referencing democrats/liberals, not anti-capitalists.

        You might want to either co-opt a different term, or better yet- come up with something new.

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          No matter how much you liberals whine, you’re not left wing. The left starts are the abolition of capitalism, as equality and equity cannot exist under capitalism.

          As far as the origin of the term… That’s not how language works. It evolves over time. The liberals haven’t been included in the left since you people appointed Hitler after instigating more than a decade of institutional violence against communists.

          You’re not left wing, you’re the exclusive reason fascists have ever gained power.

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                Are you running an LLM with basically no tokens?

                I have no fucking idea what that even means, but… HOLY FUCKING SHIT! In one paragraph. You acknowledge that history can change the meaning of a term, and in another, you blatantly accuse modern day liberals of being fascist because of shit that happened in the 1930’s?

                That is some Olympic-level mental gymnastics! And god dammed hilarious!

                You’re definitely trolling. There’s no doubt.