• ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip
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      There’s also a part that says freedom of speech, right to a fair trial, freedom from unreasonable search & seizures, right to asylum…

      How’s that going?

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      But you dont understand one protestor littered , meaning that it is now an illegal gathering and that the thousands of people gathered are a violent mob.

      Very convenient

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        Having seen a couple of vids from folks on the ground it seemed akin to a proper French riot. Folks lobbing bricks, makeshift barricades, vehicles burning etc.

        Yeah folks may feel justified an upset but it isn’t exactly surprising when authorities crack down to restore order in such a situation.

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            Sure they can, that’s called a revolution - in that case those who caused the disorder get called “heroes” and “freedom fighters”.

            If they get smushed by the current authorities coming back in force, then they get written into the history books as “criminals”, “rebels” or “insurrectionists”.

            Winner writes history and all that.

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              People don’t just instantly forget the moment after an event ends, especially now.

              The point I was making, is that bringing in cops and the national guard to beat protesters does not restore order to a crisis caused by ICE kidnapping people. It is an escalation that will very likely be matched if CA hasn’t totally forgotten their past. Which they haven’t.