• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Holy fuck this is spot on.

    I’m so tired of hearing “they’re so racist”

    It’s such a terminating clause. Like we don’t need to actually understand at a deeper level why guy born a Mexican, still is Mexican but is voting for Trump because… They’re racist against Mexicans???

    I’m so done with the left. It’s so tiring. They even adapt their messages. I can go back 15 years and still see the exact comments of “they’re racist” while right wing dominate spaces seem to come up with new things every 6 months. Soy cuck Wojack probably conjures up a whole era all our minds right? What about “man they’re racist” what does that conjure up?

    The left should lose the right to call anyone low information voters until they sort themselves the fuck out

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      I think you’re confused, liberals aren’t left. The commenter you are replying to is complaining about liberals, ie “moderate” right wingers, failing to understand far-right wingers.

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          Someone hearing for the first time that Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher are staunch liberals.

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              2 months ago

              Liberals -> want the means of production to remain privatized aka capitalism
              Leftists -> want the means of production to be publicly owned aka socialism

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                That presumes the binary is focused on economy when most nations are still debating freedom from the government and thus liberalism should be the start of the left.

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                  This presumes the liberal view that liberalism is truly “freedom from the government” whatever that means(it’s not) and that such a thing is a requirement for a leftist position (it’s not)

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                    And you are presuming the discussions being had are about capitalism when they are still debating the role of the government in private ownership.

                    It’s a eurocentric position. It’s odd how many “leftists” fall into this.