• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    no one other than Native Americans is an American, including Charlie Kirk. Because we are literally a nation of immigrants and the children, grand-children, etc. of immigrants

    I have news for you about how the aboriginal population came to be in North America…

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    He’s talking about committing crimes. For some crimes you dont exactly need a judge to rule its a crime before you say it and act on it. Especially when the judge is on it.

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    Under the nazis this hydrocephalus incest product would either be made into soap or at best he’d be castrated and sent to a mine somewhere to dig his own grave. Not even cannon fodder since no helmet would fit.

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    I’ll save you the time of reading the article. Kirk is just going on a racist rant.

    He even starts by saying he’s not a racist because he likes a black person. Clarence Thomas of all people.

    Then he starts listing people of color who don’t count as Americans, and makes up whatever excuse is convenient. This one has dual citizenship, for example.

    It’s just racism.

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      He even starts by saying he’s not a racist because he likes a black person. Clarence Thomas of all people.

      Clarence Thomas who hates black people almost as much as Stephen Miller hates Jewish people. On brand for the microface for sure.

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      Wonder what he thinks of all the US/Israeli dual citizens, including all the US citizens serving in the IOF.

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        Publicly probably lauds them for “defending western civilization” or whatever.

        Privately I’d say he thinks they’re either useful idiots or the key to the rapture.

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      Probably. I get the feeling he’s more enthusiastic about being a propaganda head and will say anything for a buck or a spotlight.

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        Ten fascists are sitting at a table and one more person sits down. How many fascists are there?

        Also, fascists in this day and age are even more fascinated with money.

        Don’t get me wrong, OG fascists were thieves and grifters as well.

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          What if I would say anything for money regardless of the content? If I was speaking fascist talking points without actually believing in it would it make me a fascist or something else? There is a difference, no, even if it amounts to the same end?

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            There isn’t a difference. If you’re still functionally advancing a fascist agenda, it doesn’t matter what you want to call or think of yourself, you’re a fascist.

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            I think this is a misunderstanding of how fascists use language.

            They don’t actually care about being correct; they care about winning the argument and furthering their agenda.

            Take JD Vance and the way he spread the lie about Haitian immigrants eating people’s pets: he knew it was fake, but he used it as an argument anyway. The goal of their reactionary project is to shape society with people like them at the top of the heirarchy. They will lie, cheat, steal, and kill because they believe in that.

            Su ultimately it doesn’t matter if they believe what they say or not; they believe in the project.

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              I’m actually not sure if all believe in the project. I say this because internet influencers are a big deal and the loudest and most obnoxious ones get the most clicks. It’s like news anchors reading off a teleprompter, it’s not their personal views, it’s just their job reading aloud.

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    People need to remember that conservatives are full of shit and always have been. They never meant so very many things, and just one of their lies is that they were only concerned about “illegal” immigration.

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      It’s not just immigrants at this point, he is implying that anyone who isn’t MAGA is outside of tolerable politics (unAmerican) and they deserve to get deported. Fascism.

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        So where do WE deport American citizens that MAGA decides aren’t good enough Americans?

        To the new 30,000 bed facility being built in Guantanamo right now. For context, the average maximum security prison in America holds 800-1200 inmates. The largest prison is in Angola, LA, and holds 8300. So this new one in Gitmo is nearly 4 times larger than our largest, and at least 25 times larger than average.

        They are clearly preparing to incarcerate a LOT of people, in foreign black site, away from the prying eyes of the courts and the media.

        Would they be doing this if they thought there was a chance that they’d lose power in 2028, and have Democrats inspecting the Gitmo Gulag? The MAGA Nazis are to stay until we force them out.

        Then we can put THEM in Gitmo

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          ^what the dumber MAGATs are saying out loud, and the smarter MAGATs are thinking but not saying

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            MAGA NAZIs are so stupid that they never understand that these things are two-edged swords, and can be wielded against them as well.

            ALL MAGAs are Traitors, Pedophiles, Racists, Misogynists, Liars, Ignorant, Socio/Psychopaths, Perverts, Weirdos, Cowards, and Traitors. THEY are the ones destroying America, and they are eventually going to find themselves on the receiving end of this statement.

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            The irony is that their idea of “Support America” is the exact opposite of supporting America.

            They never meant any of their rhetoric about rights, freedom, liberty, the Constitution, rule of law, small government, states rights, etc…the bullshit from the conservatives they have been saying for decades is just a layer of bullshit over their authoritarian mental disorder.

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    Tell me you want a race war without telling me you want a race war.

    “I’m just asking a very simple question. If you’re not an American, that’s fine. Go back to your place of origin. I’m not going to hurt you. I’m not going to harm you. I’m not going to imprison you. Just go back. Hasta la vista.”

    The natural leap for his listeners is that if those people don’t go back where they came from, then they should be hurt. They should be harmed. Then he throws in a “hasta la vista” at the end. Hearing that come out of a white guy’s mouth always makes me think of Terminator 2.

    I very much doubt his fans socialize with any Spanish speakers, not that the phrase is in common usage by Spanish speakers from what I understand. So that movie is probably the first thing to pop into his audience’s heads too when they hear the phrase.

    Kirk rants about people he considers non-Americans, rants about them not speaking in English, says he won’t hurt those people if they leave the USA (which automatically implies he will hurt them if they don’t), then throws in a non-English phrase that his audience will almost certainly associate with a killing machine. Sure sounds like stochastic terrorism to me.

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    If Charlie Kirk is the barometer for what’s American, then I will gladly be called un-American.