Businessman (44) rapes girl (15) on Swiss plane - convicted
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A 44-year-old businessman has been convicted of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl during a Swiss flight. The case demonstrates the application of the new criminal law on sexual offenses.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    711·
    2 days ago

    The legal definition of rape varies by country, but the general definition is that it involves involuntary penetration:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape

    Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse, or other forms of sexual penetration.

    What’s new is not the difference between assault and rape, but in how it is decided to be voluntary or not.
    It used to be that a woman had to have said no very clearly. While now in many places, lack of acceptance is the same as no. That goes for both rape and sexual assault.

    PS:
    Wow, imagine being downvoted for showing a clear definition?!

    • Pro@reddthat.comOPEnglish
      12·
      2 days ago

      notice the article mentions absolutely NOTHING about rape, and why it should be considered as such. it was ONLY in the headline!

      From the article:

      Application of the new sexual criminal law

      The new sexual criminal law was applied at the trial. This law, which came into force a year ago, is based on the formula “No means no”. Rape is now deemed to have occurred if the victim shows through words or gestures that they do not consent. A state of shock on the part of the victim is sufficient as a sign of refusal.

      According to the Tages-Anzeiger, the 15-year-old’s state of shock was emphasized in the indictment. She was unable to defend herself against the acts and endured the assault without saying a word or moving. Before the law was changed, rape would only have been recognized if the perpetrator had used violence or threatened the victim.

      Stop defending your proven mistake already and just admit that you did not read and learn to improve and not do it again.

    • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      2 days ago

      The only definition that matters is the one used by Swiss courts. And Swiss courts found him guilty of rape.

    • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      21·
      2 days ago

      It used to be that a woman had to have said no very clearly. While now in many places, lack of acceptance is the same as no. That goes for both rape and sexual assault.

      This is a weird fucking thing to fixate on and rail about on a thread about a sleeping 15 year old girl getting raped by a 44 year old. Whether or not she said no changes fuck all.

      • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        Of course Swiss law matters. This article is on a Swiss website and reports on a Swiss trial.

        If you think someone convicted of rape is not necessarily a rapist, that’s on you.

      • Doomsider@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        I agree with everything up until the part where you accuse the authors of trying to get clicks. That is literally the purpose of a headline.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        2 days ago

        They don’t really read the article right, what has changed is not what rape is, but when a no is no. so it’s WHEN it’s rape, not WHAT is rape. The rule also goes for sexual assault.

        The law on rape was changed, but sexual assault is still not rape.

        Anyways, whether it’s the body or the headline that is right, the 2 parts remain at conflict on whether it’s sexual assault or rape.