• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
    91·
    11 hours ago

    until a pacman update breaks your system because you didn’t read the release notes telling you it needed manual intervention beforehand 🤣

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      44 minutes ago

      I use informant which in theory fixed this but even then there is an issue on it about some things happening earlier in pacman than the transaction hook it uses so… Bleh. This shit needs to be built into pacman itself, seriously.

    • seralth@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      8 hours ago

      That’s happened like once in the last 3 years and the notice was right in pacman before you accepted.

  • Consti@lemmy.world
    1·
    9 hours ago

    Of course it won’t do anything, you need to update (refresh the index) before you upgrade (download and install updates), silly you

    • ragas@lemmy.ml
      3·
      11 hours ago

      sudo emerge -avuDUg world

      –changed-use, -U:

      • Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags have changed since installation. This option also implies the –selective option. Unlike –newuse, the –changed-use option does not trigger reinstallation when flags that the user has not enabled are added or removed.

      –getbinpkg [ y | n ], -g:

      • Using the server and location defined in PORTAGE_BINHOST (see make.conf(5)), portage will download the information from each binary package found and it will use that information to help build the dependency list. This option implies -k. (Use -gK for binary-only merging.)
      • Heavybell@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 hour ago

        Yeah, I used to use -U but I prefer -N personally. I like the system to be consistent with what it would be from a fresh build.

  • Matriks404@lemmy.world
    311·
    1 day ago

    Debian users:

    What do you mean by PPA?

    Also: apt-get is intended as low-level APT interface for scripts, just use apt instead. I get why people are confused nowadays, because APT documentation is terrible.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
      5·
      20 hours ago

      apt-get is intended as low-level APT interface for scripts

      Ah, that’s what they call it now.

      I wonder to what they degraded dpkg then?

      • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
        8·
        14 hours ago

        Isn’t dpkg just the program that installs DEB files, without handling dependency resolution?

    • notarobot@lemmy.zip
      2·
      19 hours ago

      I thought apt-get was a transitional command made so that the devs could make a breaking change, but now that that is done, its no longer needed

  • Comrade_Squid@lemmy.ml
    10·
    20 hours ago

    Using Debian as my main laptop distro, I am usually an arch user but figured with it being a light weight laptop I wouldn’t need arch, its been fine but installing updates can be frustrating, after a few weeks gnomes appstore breaks, then I need to use terminal to apt update, apt --fix-broken install.

    • Hirom@beehaw.org
      3·
      13 hours ago

      Which Debian distribution are you using, stable, testing, unstable?

      I take care of a couple machines for family members. Those have Debian stable with automatic update (unattended-upgrade). I can’t recall the system or packages ever breaking. At most users are a bit confused when an update change the UI a bit.

      Sticking to stable and avoiding third party repos gives a pretty solid system. Only developers or sysadmins might consider Debian testing. Only people working on Debian itself should use unstable.

  • hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
    761·
    1 day ago

    And yet I’ve never had an apt upgrade break my whole system.

    • Malgas@beehaw.orgEnglish
      2·
      14 hours ago
      nix flake update
nix flake check --no-build
git commit -a
nh os switch

      Is the routine I’ve settled into. Flake update because I use flakes, flake check because it’s easier to see any warnings about deprecated options and the like so I can fix them preemptively, git commit after the check to avoid back-to back commits where the second is fixing some issue with the first, and nh because I like the pretty dependency graph and progress bar.

      • NuclearDolphin@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        5 hours ago

        Lots of useful stuff here. Taking all of it.

        Does nh use fast-nix-build (or whatever the fancy nix builder CLI is called) to build your system?

        • Malgas@beehaw.orgEnglish
          1·
          1 hour ago

          I honestly don’t know how nh works under the hood, but it does seem to do concurrent builds, so it’s probably something like that.

    • Cat_Daddy [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      31·
      14 hours ago

      zypper is unironically the best package manager. Absolute s-tier god-mode. It’s slow as hell, but that’s because it makes atomic updates. If the install doesn’t go well, it just rolls it back. I fucking love zypper, and I want to shake the hands of the people responsible for it.