I don’t quite understand this post. Is it saying that LCD panels suffer much more severe burn-in than OLED over a longer time period?
Miniled is better than both
I have a TV with “Edge LED” since 2017. No HDR but nice picture and still going strong with too many hours of gaming.
Nevermind. It’s regular LCD.
All that edge LED crap was such BS marketing. Even most renditions of the zoned backlighting are trash that makes obvious bright spots and glowing features in the wrong scenes.
Anyone selling a “LED TV” that was just LED backlighting should’ve been fined.
even my phone got burn in…
Have I just been really lucky or something with OLEDs? Almost all the ones I have had for 5+ years on phones and such, and even my nearly two year old desktop one, have nearly zero burn in.
I have an LG OLED from about 8 years ago, and I do some rather pronounced burn in. I was also rather careful about leaving anything fixed on the screen. I have some friends with a slightly newer panel and they too have burn in. So maybe lucky? Or maybe your generation of panel is less susceptible than mine.
That said, I’m about to renovate my house, and when I’m done I’ll consider buying another OLED panel. Worth it in my opinion.
I’ve got a buddy who runs full brightness on every phone and complains when he gets screen burn-in. “If full brightness will cause burn-in, they shouldn’t let you set it that high.”
No, dude, they give you the option so you can use the phone outdoors in sunlight. But you shouldn’t run it that bright all the time, it’s bad for it and a waste of battery.
Every time I hand him my phone to show him something he cranks my brightness all the way up. I’m worried about his eyesight.
I was lurking the monitors subreddit looking for OLED monitor reviews, without fail every single person complaining about burn-in was running their monitors at 400-500 nits brightness.
I calibrated my LCD to 120 nits, and it’s been perfect. Of course I don’t use it with direct sunlight falling on it because who would do that with a stationary monitor
high brightness is only a problem for static images. when i was on tiktok way to much, i had a burn in of the white plus at the bottom specifically and nothing else
rtings.com has a long running test for burn in on OLED and uniformity on LCD:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/longevity-results-after-10-months
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
You have to push them quite hard to get any significant burn in.
I’ve had an LG OLED tv for about 5 years, no burn in yet.
Same, 6 years on my end. No complaints
almost 5 years on my lg oled, zero burn-in. been using as a monitor, mostly with 75% brightness. lots of dead pixels on the edges though
Samsung for 4 years. Same. Never had to run the burn in recovery thing.
Wait, did Samsung start selling OLEDs again? Thought they were still trying to upsell LCDs by branding them QLED lol
Samsung miniled / neo-QLED panels can be great. We opted for one because it can get way brighter full size sustained and there’s a lot of natural light hitting it from the top, side and back. You maintain decent (if not OLED, of course) contrast because it’s VA (though not all of them are?) and it’s never used for gaming anyway. But it’s use-case specific. They do sell oleds too yes.
I have one from 2008. Still works great. LG OLED.
No you don’t. You have LED backlighting on an LCD panel at best, or you don’t know how old your TV is.
As of 2010, LG Electronics produced one model of OLED television, the 15-inch (38 cm) 15EL9500.
No offense, but I doubt you have an LG OLED from 2008.
This is almost 10 months of continuous use as a monitor spread over 5ish years.
My C1 which I’ve been using as a monitor has no burn in. Gray uniformity is not perfect and there are some minor issues with ghosting on grays but it’s still a better monitor for my uaecase than anything else. I assume newer models are even better.
I got my first OLED (pixel 6 pro) almost 3 years ago with no issues yet, and I got an LG C3 1.5-ish years ago. Still young but newer OLEDs have features built in to prevent burn-in. We’ll see 🤞 the C3 looks incredible.
The last phone I had that got burn-in was a Samsung galaxy s5, even then I think it only started burning in after it got water damage from dropping down a waterfall (it was fine otherwise).
Mine was a Galaxy S8. Barely perceptible, but I noticed that the section of screen where I used to have the persistent on-screen navigation bar started to have some burn-in after 4-ish years of use
For my current phone, I use gesture controls and make sure that there’s no persistent screen element displaying at the bottom of the screen. I still have persistent display elements for things like battery/network/time up top, but they’re too tiny to really matter. Been using this phone now for 4 years as well and haven’t noticed any burn-in at all.
rooted C8 checking in- no problems at all.
Before I broke the screen I think my iPhone X was 4 years old and i recall the home bar and notification bar had a little ghosting. Other than that I haven’t had burn in with my oled tv or monitor, but I let them auto clean and all that.
My only warning is don’t get an Alienware oled, it auto cleans on a completely random schedule and won’t power on half the time I go to use it
Ah, I have an Alienware OLED and didn’t find the refresh too annoying. For me I just leave it on standby for a bit when I’m taking a break and it’ll be done with the refresh when I’m back. I can get how it can be a pain though, since it sometimes does not pop up the refresh info message for some reason.
I would be ok with it if it asked before starting like my LG. But sometimes I will grab a drink in the middle of gaming and windows will sleep the monitor, and I come back to a monitor that won’t turn on or do anything. No lights nothing. The only way to use it again is unplug it for 30 seconds.
That is very weird. My AW3423DWF will stop the refresh cycle in the middle as soon as it detects an input in standby and come back within a second or two. What model do you have? It might be worth updating the firmware.
AW3423DWb. Maybe the cord was messed up. I just set it up in a different place so I’ll wait and see if that issue persists. Firmware update sounds like a good idea.
I’m playing more on the LCD lately anyways. It’s 1080, but it’s a smooth 520hz
2013 Plasma owner, no burn in here!
Also laughing in last generation plasma.
I loved the picture from our plasma, but the heat it generated was something else. It was like running a bar heater with better graphics. Literally needed to run the air conditioning to watch TV.
2011 plasma and still going strong
2009 plasma here
I think mines from like 03, but it was burnt in when I got it
CRT owners after 50 years: “Respect my authoritah!”
CRT suffer from phosphor fade
That can be repaired. It’s not particularly easy, but it can be done and there are people who do it especially for old arcade machines.
more like that picture of randy with giant cancerous balls
Isn’t oled better these days?
While improvements have been made to management to help they will still all suffer burn in. Use them with any static content and they will show signs of problems within months.
The burn in claims are grossly exaggerated. A simple pixel refresh that runs automatically when the screen sleeps counters the burn in. Most OLED screens you buy now have a pixel or panel refresh feature.
Probably all of them have it, I would be surprised if you could turn it off actually.
The “refresh” just makes the pic more uniform again, the refresh itself is a sort of controlled burn-in.
Not too long ago OLEDs would lose brightness due to it (especially red brightness iirc?).As I stated it’s static content which will cause the most obvious issue, most TVs won’t show that. Refreshing the screen helps mitigate or hide most general damage now.
Even without pixel refresh, newer OLED panels generally don’t burn-in much, if at all. Still wouldn’t risk skipping the auto refresh, though honestly many of them run it without telling you now when the screen goes into standby. I wouldn’t even know my 2024 Alienware OLED ran it at all without accidentally interrupting it.
My oled phone from 2021 started slowly developing vertical lines of bad pixels this year and has some burn in on the status bar area. It’s still usable, but definitely kind of annoying and a lot worse than the status of the lcd on the older phone it replaced.
For a bright room they only now have(ish!) the juice to actually perform*, but they all recommend to run them are like 80% brightness.
*top, expensive models I mean, and even tho for a lot of content you need a little bit less brightness compared to even VA, due to contrast, but that is way not enough to make a difference + with dimness of OLEDs you have to be extra careful to buy one that actually has a black screen when turned off in a bright room (and not grey in a bright environment bcs it fucks the contrast).
So, my use case, with running at 100% brightness, I would have some sort of burn-in in a few years. Absolutely not something I want to look at for a decade.
And I’m old enough to have had beautiful PVA & MVA matrices that burned in (I bought them old actually -I clinged to my CRT for as long as possible, and then suffered TN for gaming- and for my second monitor most of the time).
One of my 1600×1200 PVAs (the later model without burn in) is still next to my serves, so every few years or so it shows console :‘’'(.
As I see it, for a bright room, there are no OLEDs … maybe some of the newest gen TVs maybe?
For a normal room, buy an OLED with the mentality that you might want to e-waste it after 5 years of taking care of it (no static content, no max brightness).
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2007 1080p LCD still kicking.
Also have one of the tiny CRTs with the VCR built in that is god knows, 80s or 90s.
I also have a 1080p 2007 LCD still kicking. To be fair, any lcd I ever bought is still in great shape. But that one is the oldest.
My CRTs eventually started showing burn in. Also we never had a special one so image quality was ok at best, even compared to our first LCD units, so I can’t say I miss them.
Give it up one more time for old LCDs trucking along, such perseverance, really awesome
Same!! Was recently thinking of replacing it, but then I thought “Why?” So… meh.
My LCDs are nearly two decades old. Insane value
I finally had to replace mine at over 15 years, maybe even close to 20 years, and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a panel failure but one of the boards because it just shut off one day and never came back on. And prices had gone down so much in that time I went out and bought two 27” full HD monitors at Costco for what I think is the same or less than what I paid for that 17” SXGA in the early ’00s.
Good chance an electrolytic cap went bad. A little soldering skill and an off chance of electrocution might solve that.
LCD companies don’t want you to know this one weird trick.
Two years ago I had to throw a screen away, because once I retired an old GPU, I had no device left with a VGA port.
So are mine – but the power use is becoming a problem. More modern screens use less than half that at the same size and brightness. Replacement will be necessary soon.
I still think there is no better picture than a plasma screen and I’ll die on this hill.
(probably alone)
Amen. I’m still rocking a 2011 Samsung plasma but unfortunately it’s slowly getting worse. Think OLED will replace it, definitely not LED.
We still have our original Sony Bravia Z Series (LCD) Amazing picture for a TV that we bought brand new back in 2011.
I have an old plasma and it’s fine. The burn in is real though
I have a 27 year old LCD that would still be great but the fluorescent tube that backlights it has dimmed. It’s on my trash pile of projects to fix it with an led strip.
