Maybe you’re idealizing the past? I was watching a Seinfeld episode from like 97 that was about Elaine liking a guy but she has to find out if he’s an anti abortion conservative before she goes further. So even in those days there was enough of a divide that people were talking about it. Go back to the 60s same thing, you weren’t gonna have left hippies dating right wing yuppies.
It’s important to find a partner who is not in support of whatever the fuck conservatives think they’re doing nowadays, especially for a woman who may feel vulnerable and doesn’t wanna fall into a pit with a guy who doesn’t share her values and sees her as less than himself
Seinfeld was a TV show and exaggeration of reality, and the protagonists were giant pieces of shit, as evident by the series finale.
But yes, it was joking about a growing trend. A trend that has existed on some level since the dawn of time, but my point is that it’s been accelerated and amplified to a degree that hasn’t existed in the past. I know, I am from the past.
I disagree. I remember the 90s, and not only was abortion a very hot topic, but IVF was fairly new then, and there was enormous debate over whether it was ethical or should be outlawed because the religious right argued (vehemently) that, because it necessarily means many fertilised embryos were destroyed in the process, ‘babies’ were being killed. The ‘life begins at conception’ argument was in full force back then.
Not only were abortion clinics being bombed on the regular, but fertility clinics, too. It seemed rare for a while that you could go a week without hearing about a fertility-related doctor being killed in some way, sometimes in their own homes. Given the vitriol in the past few years, I’ve been surprised they’re not trying to outlaw IVF again (I think it’s only a matter of time).
The debate has been heated lately, but we haven’t hit 90s level of murder over it.
Maybe you’re idealizing the past? I was watching a Seinfeld episode from like 97 that was about Elaine liking a guy but she has to find out if he’s an anti abortion conservative before she goes further. So even in those days there was enough of a divide that people were talking about it. Go back to the 60s same thing, you weren’t gonna have left hippies dating right wing yuppies. It’s important to find a partner who is not in support of whatever the fuck conservatives think they’re doing nowadays, especially for a woman who may feel vulnerable and doesn’t wanna fall into a pit with a guy who doesn’t share her values and sees her as less than himself
Seinfeld was a TV show and exaggeration of reality, and the protagonists were giant pieces of shit, as evident by the series finale.
But yes, it was joking about a growing trend. A trend that has existed on some level since the dawn of time, but my point is that it’s been accelerated and amplified to a degree that hasn’t existed in the past. I know, I am from the past.
I disagree. I remember the 90s, and not only was abortion a very hot topic, but IVF was fairly new then, and there was enormous debate over whether it was ethical or should be outlawed because the religious right argued (vehemently) that, because it necessarily means many fertilised embryos were destroyed in the process, ‘babies’ were being killed. The ‘life begins at conception’ argument was in full force back then.
Not only were abortion clinics being bombed on the regular, but fertility clinics, too. It seemed rare for a while that you could go a week without hearing about a fertility-related doctor being killed in some way, sometimes in their own homes. Given the vitriol in the past few years, I’ve been surprised they’re not trying to outlaw IVF again (I think it’s only a matter of time).
The debate has been heated lately, but we haven’t hit 90s level of murder over it.