• EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Some folks here believe once Trump is dead, his empire will pass onto someone else. I couldn’t disagree more. Every time someone tries to do what Trump does, it’s a big flop. It will all unravel with him gone. It’s called a cult for a reason.

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      I hope it does unravel without dragging the whole world into another war. But i fear the seed of hate has already taken root. Unless the entire system is purged of hate I don’t have confidence it will be as simple as the Don kicking the bucket.

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      Question then becomes what to do about his lieutenants. We still got to deal with the evil that is Miller. In fact. I think tRump is too big an idiot for the full scope of evil that his administration is doing. I think much of this comes from Miller.

      Musk owns many politicians and is throwing his seig heils.

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        Correct. Trump is just the face but if he stroke out and can’t make public appearances, the facade falls quickly and there will be a 25A crisis.

        MAGA isn’t going to follow en mass any of the fuckers propping up Trump.

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    https://youtu.be/69fPof-ZTnU It’s gonna be the college football stadium anthem this fall. It has a catchy beat & all the kids can dance to it. All good in my book. It has the Bob & Connie Dobbs seal of approval. For sure to be a hit. Or perhaps get hit by one yourself. Now sing along to our new jingle. 🎶 Either way it’s so ok to sit & smile & stroke all day🎶

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    I am hoping he lives long enough to prosecute his half of a civil war. We want the bad guys to constantly step on rakes, and Trump is very good at that. Ideally, he should die in the middle of that, so that Thiel, Elon, and the rest of the dickhead gang can fight over the throne at the worst time possible for the Dark “Enlightenment”…no, the Dim Ignorance.

    The less good people have to die because of these jackasses, the better.

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        Problem is, the people who created and pushed Project 2025 are still around and supporting their foul agenda. They must die, so that democracy can live. If it takes Trump being the bungler-in-chief for the next couple years…I will put up with it.

        Trump is the least competent of the bunch. We need the more dangerous serpents to lose their heads, else they will continue sinking their fangs into us.

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      Oh he’ll for sure be propped up and wheeled around indefinitely, but it’s basically confirmed he’s getting more frequent TIAs and worse recoveries despite his treatment. Real question is how bad is the next puppet going to be once he croaks.

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        I don’t think there is anyone close to being able to hold onto the MAGA fan base of Trump kicks it. Vance sure can’t, Elon is universally hated, as is Stephen Miller. None of Trump’s kids has any charisma either.

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          The next few years would end up being “weekend at Bernie’s, Trump edition”

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      They likely have a replacement ready. When you manage to get a group all-in on tribalism juice, they’ll come up with cognitive dissonance and narratives all on their own and fall in line no matter what happens.

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      Yeah, every time I see a headline saying “Trump, 79, …” I just scroll past it at this point.

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      Rawstory sensationalizes small bits of real info, constantly. He’ll probably pop up tomorrow.

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    I don’t want him to die yet.

    I want him to live long enough to face all the consequences of his every criminal action. I want him to die in prison after losing everything. After watching his entire criminal family jailed, his buildings and golf courses sold, and his name forever marked as the despotic maniac he is. Even then, it would not be sufficient justice.

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      We already know that isn’t going to happen though. The smug raisin was impeached twice, has raped children with Epstein, and is currently declaring LGBT+ and their allies as terrorists. If those things weren’t enough to have him locked away, what will be?

      I honestly think the most justice we could hope to see would be his bloated, festering body finally giving out on him on national television. But I doubt his retinue will give us that joy.

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      Yeah and if the CK thing was any indicator of how it’ll go, the administration will milk it for all it’s worth. It’ll be gross.

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          “And if you call right now, we’ll send you not one, but two commemorative plates and a set of gold plate holders”

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        I hope he dies in the stupidest, self-owning way possible, like tripping over his own feet and falling down some stairs. Preferably on camera.

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            During one of his dumb speeches in front of a crowd of MAGA idiots … right in the middle of making one of his dumb statements, just suddenly stops, stares into space and falls over.

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              Preferably saying something stupid like “Folks, let me tell you something — if I’m wrong, if the Republican Party is wrong — and by the way, we’re not — but if we were wrong, then may God strike me down right now! But it’s not gonna happen, because we’re doing what’s right for America. Believe me.”

              Love to see how they would try to spin that being his last words.

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              as long as there are elvises (heart attack while eating something nasty and then shitting oneself, then dying) involved and it’s on camera, i’ll win a bet

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          I was thinking he could be so constipated from eating junk fast food that he farts himself to death sitting on the toilet. 🚽

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        Unlike with CK though, they won’t be able to hide or contain or threaten the millions of people who will take to the streets celebrating. THAT is the part I look forward to, the absolute, uncontainable movement of the masses defying the state and all it’s impotent rage.

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          Honestly I don’t see that happening. Even with his passing, that really doesn’t change anything. The administration is still there, and 2nd in line is couch-fucker vance. The foundation for their plans are already in place, and quite frankly, Taco has served his purpose with his popularity declining.

          The administration will just use any uprising as a reason to mobilize more troops in the name of safety or whatever. I really wish I’m wrong though.

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            JD doesn’t have the political capital Trump has had which has been the reason Trump gets away with shitting in the faces of everything and everyone.

            He has a feverishly devoted base of armed, loyal voters who will support ANYTHING he does. That’s raw political power at a foundational level. Nobody understands how he does it so they keep jockeying people like Vance into the spotlight hoping to be able to take the reins.

            But Trump’s base hates Vance. He talks too much, he sounds like a politician, he has no swagger like Trump does. The magic will go out when the dim light goes out of Trump’s lousy life.

            I don’t think birds will sing and sunbeams will wash the country clean or anything, but the end of Trump will be the beginning of the decay of the republican party. They have no leader with the same political capital. About the only person who had a chance of introducing his own brand of charisma to flute the rats was Charlie Kirk.

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              It is well understood how he does it. Go watch the documentary Bad Faith. The CNP (Council for National Progress, the group that founded the heritage foundation), has been supplying priests and pastors talking point for 50 years. The CNP told the priests what to say, the priests tell people to follow trump. boom, cult.

              I’m fairly certain when djt checksout, the cult will be gifted to JD and business will continue.

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    Handlers keeping him hidden like they did Biden. Dead or alive were still fucked, he’s just a cog in the machine that will be replaced to keep the status quo protected and running

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      Sure then the cult will quietly assemble under that master smooth charismatic leader Steven Miller.

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        He’s too close to the mothership. Vance will be president and ol Steve will continue avoiding UV light, where possible.

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        Unlike master smooth charismatic leader Donald Trump?

        All he needs to do is slur some slurs and his base will eat it up. There’s nothing fancy behind them, just a lack of humanity.

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          Some of you really don’t understand why Trump appeals to his base. Trump is entertaining to them. They find him charismatic and funny. They also like that he isn’t polished and that he speaks his mind, but doesn’t say anything overtly hateful, so they can pretend they’re not bigots because they can pretend he’s not a bigot. And in their minds he’s a fighter with a macho aura.

          Miller is a weird kid that eats glue and glowers, and you’re pretty sure he hurts animals. He’s not entertaining or funny or macho, and he probably makes the average Trump voter uncomfortable because he seems too overtly hateful and they like to pretend that they’re not.

          DeSantis was the RC Cola version of Trump. He wasn’t entertaining, but he wasn’t overtly hateful either. He seemed like a macho fighter at first. Then they all realized that he was kind of short (for a presidential candidate) and walked around in lifts because he was so insecure about it. He exudes desperation.

          Vance is like DeSantis. The man wears eyeliner. The only reason he’s VP is because Peter Thiel and the crypto bros put him there, and because Trump knew he wouldn’t outshine him. He has exactly zero chance of taking up the cult leader mantle. He’d probably be able to hold things together until the end of the term, but no longer.

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          Yeah it’s a cult of personality. DeSantis wanted it but they said No.

          Lindsey Graham thought he could weasel his way in, they laughed him out. Perjury Traitor Greed has all the credentials but, let’s be honest, she identifies as a woman, and they’re not electing that. Plus she’s plain old insane. He’s demented. It’s a fine but distinct line.

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            Desantis wears shoe inserts and graham is very clearly a closeted homosexual. Miller is hateful and patriotic and has the balls to atleast appear to be himself. That is all they like about trump aside from his illusion of wealth. “The way he just says what he means.” It will either be miller or miller will continue to control from the background and let vance be the scapegoat for when things get ugly.

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              Stephen Miller can never fill Trump’s shoes. Trump at least has charisma - he can charm and flatter people and keep a smile on his face. Miller is just hatred manifest, not to mention he exudes insecurity and he looks like a cartoon villain. Zero redeeming qualities. He has to stay in the background so people don’t see the ugly face of their agenda.

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              I mean - no. I know, i know, but seriously. They don’t even like Steve Bourbon, and he’s tried to be in the media as much as possible. Plus Miller is. Y’know.

              Let’s just say close but no cigar.

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                Bannon is a raging alcoholic that exudes Jabba the Hutt energy. I think of all of them, miller is the most immediately “effective”. I think given vances early ties to the paypal mafia, he is next in line for puppet.

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            Yeah but if trump croaks, there will be a power vacuum, and these are the kinds of people who need someone to worship.

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              With any luck they’ll display all of the hatred and animosity that made them famous toward each other.

              Y’know like the left does.

              Hi-oooooooo!

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          I don’t get it but for whatever reason he has an enthusiastic following specific to him.

          There are a number of races where people tried to ride his popularity, but unless Trump is directly in the race, it doesn’t seem to matter so much.

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            He’s the embodiment of their idea of the American dream. Born with a silver spoon in his mouth, accruing unlimited wealth and living a life with no accountability. They want to be him.

            They don’t want a world with no kings. They want to be king.