• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    2 days ago

    I’d imagine Russia would still act like the dickbags they always have but now they’d be inside the military alliance that was supposed to defend against Russian aggression.

    Or they could be a totally normal and peaceful liberal democracy. But for me it’s jushard to imagine that being the likely outcome

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      I’d imagine Russia would still act like the dickbags

      In your alternate reality Russia is still bad because you’re just Russophobe. The current proto-fascist Russian government is a direct consequence of western decisions, first by dismantling the Soviet Union and then by not allowing Russia to Europeify.

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        1 day ago

        I think it’s strange how you don’t allow Russians or other Eastern European people agency of their own.

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          1 day ago

          Russians wanted to join Europe, it simply wasn’t allowed, I don’t know what part of agency I’m removing from Russians. Funny how some countries are “democratically” allowed to join NATO (was there a referendum in Ukraine?), and some aren’t.

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            Russians are already part of Europe. Or like half of it is. And the members in EU and NATO always get to decide who to allow as members. Ukraine nor Russia is a member.

            I was thinking agency in Eastern European people wanting to get away from under Soviet Union/Russia and join NATO and agency for Russians in some of their communist hardliners gave Soviet Union the final killing blow by destroying the New Union Treaty.

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      Nobody knows. It depends how much more profit would be for the Russian elite class to have a democracy (maybe they could had played along to joined EU). As you see USA is not particularly democratic now-days (she is in danger to become Russia).