OP’s Display Name: Grass Mud Horse
aka: Cao Ni Ma
Lulz
(Spoken with a different tone is a curse word, this was supposedly used by Chinese internet users to bypass curseword filters)
I downvoted because this time Jesse is perfectly clear
Does it help that he’s stupid and wrong?
Doesn’t seem to help you at all… why the fuck would it help Jesse?
One of you certainly is.
Ew, you’re giving fascist.
Not to be rude but like, no u.
People only listened to Martin’s peaceful compromise, because the alternative wasn’t gonna be the status quo, the alternative was Malcolm and the Black Panthers…
And they still both got killed, alongside two Kennedy’s. And Ronald fucking Reagan himself to establish Cali’s gun laws.
The 60s was a very violent time politically that’s why the establishment was scared enough to start handing out civil rights to calm the masses.
Riots are what keep governments and the wealthy scared to oppress the populace. But in an ideal society that’s not necessary. So we keep getting into cycles of necessary riots, earning rights, then them slowly eroding while privileged people say even peaceful protests aren’t needed.
When people can’t peacefully protest, or when governments dont listen to them…
The people turn to a different kind of protest. It’s their only option left, so it’s just a matter of time. Might be days/weeks/months, even years or decades. But eventually they’ll turn to it.
King wasn’t worried about radical black thinkers, he was in community and agreement with most of them. King was worried about white backlash inspired by black violence.
King thought that taking on the US government with guns was not just philosophically wrong, but tactical and strategic stupidity.
The through-line between slain civil rights leaders is radical socialist/ Marxist thought, not violence. And King was defiantly among those radical thinkers, even though his legacy has been flattened to three or four lines from one speech.
Yeah, a big piece of revisionist history is portraying those two as fighting each other
For the same reason the wealthy keep trying to turn modern protesters against each other, or even voters against each other via means testing.
The two of them weren’t competing they were both working to the same ends.
And that scares the oligarchs when the poors unite.
I’m not an expert on civil rights, but I do remember King and Malcolm X having some… disagreements.
Clever acts of civil disobedience.
Consider the risks, the disruption, the audience, the take-away message / discourse.
Protests need to get creative. The inflatable frog suits are good example: it’s ridiculous, it’s visibly passive, it’s practical, and it has great optics. Entire protest actions need to be designed with these things in mind.
Everyone (protestors and the public alike) are bored to tears of street marches, cute protest signs and the same dozen chants.
Everyone is bored to tears with cosplay protests, it’s time for riots.
Por que no los dos?
Try reading about the May Day Riots of 1919 (even the Wikipedia article reads like a picture perfect example of victim blaming)
If protesters don’t bring the violence it tends to be brought to them. There’s never a right answer when it comes to fascists.
According to the Cleveland Bicentennial Commission, as they marched to Cleveland’s Public Square, one of the units was stopped on Superior Avenue by a group of Victory Liberty Loan workers, who demanded that they lower their flags. At some point, an army lieutenant leading a number of soldiers likewise directed the marchers to discard their flags.[4] When the marchers refused to do so, the lieutenant ordered his soldiers to attack. Mass fighting broke out immediately. A call for reserves brought several mounted police who charged their horses directly into the crowd and swung their clubs indiscriminately.[1] In this ensuing melee, over twenty marchers were severely injured by the clubs, and ambulances from nearby hospitals were dispatched to rescue the many wounded.[1]
After the first riot had been quelled, a second riot began in the downtown area; specifically, the Public Square where former Secretary of the Treasury William Gibbs McAdoo was addressing a Victory Loan rally at Keith’s Hippodrome.[1] An army lieutenant ordered socialists to clear away from a speaking platform, and directed his men to attack all those who did not comply with his orders.[1] Mounted policemen with clubs and army tanks charged the crowd. Seventy individuals were arrested and incarcerated at the Central Police Station.[1]
A third riot then occurred on Euclid Avenue in the heart of the shopping district.[1] Later in the evening, Ruthenberg’s socialist party headquarters on Prospect Avenue was ransacked by soldiers, police, and armed civilians. This latter mob “completely demolished the building” and “typewriters and office furniture were thrown into the street.”[1] Towards the end of the day, the anti-socialists piled “scores of red flags and banners” — which they had taken by force from the marchers — at the foot of the Soldiers and Sailors’ Monument in Public Square and set them alight in a giant bonfire.[1]
Remember doing anything is the greatest threat to fascists, so don’t do anything or they might start abducting innocent citizens off of the street. At present they do not have any reason to be able to act so we are all safe, but do not give them an excuse to arrest, abuse, deport, or kill innocent people.
Cops are very peaceful when guns are openly carried. “Now let’s just all please get along!” Florida can’t get open carry fast enough. I will be strapped at every protest. And I do mean every protest. MAGA has another event? Oh you bet your ass I’ll be there, pride pin on my AR sling.
The man incites the riot to justify the “crackdown.”
The man doesn’t need the riot, the man is already “crackingdown.”
And how about all the random violence that has not done anything to shape our society, Jessie?
I hate it when people say “it made me the person I am” or similar statements. What’s so great about the person you are, I always want to ask. Our society is fucked up. Whatever shaped it is not automatically a good thing.
Also, the meme simultaneously recognizes revisionism: that things can be viewed differently after a long time. But then it totally misses the point and says we should have riots NOW because of the revisionism we’ve done on previous ones.
There is so much fucking stupid here it makes my head hurt. And we’re supposed to read this and say “deep man, wow, you’re so smart.” Eesh.
random violence
Ah well there’s your problem, you’ve changed the topic to something completely different.
I’m not the one conflating the two topics. The meme does:
Panel 1: “riots”
and then suddenly
Panel 3: “civil disobedience”
Panel 3: “illegal civil disobedience”