No, I reject your musing. Numerous studies have shown the will of the people is a false premise. We live in a fascist world that uses democracy as a window dressing for oligarchy.
They have done similar studies around the world. From my research the biggest indicator is a wealth gap. While this alone does not confirm fascism what does is an ever increasing wealth gap where an extreme minority of the population owns the majority of wealth.
Wealth inequality is a consequence of the existence of markets, and long predates “fascism.” I guess you are using that term in some kind of hyperbolic sense, but I don’t think these type of word games are very constructive.
As it happens, inequality has been moderately successfully addressed since the advent of progressive taxation and welfare states, and some of the democracies we are talking about are among the most egalitarian societies in human history, certainly when it comes to post-neolithic times.
Even aside from oligarchs behind the scenes, it is no surprise that voters’ interests and desires do not align very well with policy in the US, where a two-party system with legalized bribery is in place, and voting rights are unequally weighed and conditional. These factors are either not at all or to a much lesser extent relevant in top-tier democracies.
Thank you for responding, but please provide evidence of a country without an ever widening wealth gap or go home.
I get you don’t understand fascism. It is okay. As Mussolini put it is corporatism. The evolution of corporatism is a corportocracy. Corporations are the dominant form of all social constructs currently regardless of governments or cultures.
I also understand you are under the illusion that any country that exists provides the rights that human beings deserve. There is no country that exists that deserves humanity.
There are many examples of economies where wealth inequality is not “ever widening.” Even in very recent US history there have been times of decreasing inequality, such as in the wake of the Great Recession.
Sustained decreasing trends have been observed in many Western economies in the period from the late 19th Century to the 1980s, when many of these economies introduced redistributive measures.
Corporations are the dominant form of all social constructs currently regardless of governments or cultures.
Markets and inequality also long predate corporations, which emerged in the early modern period.
So then you can provide no example. As I have researched, there is no nation currently that has the trend of reducing the wealth gap. I understand you do not view this as proof and that is okay.
I brought up the fact that corporations are currently the dominant social construct in our society regardless of country. You can agree or disagree.
I produced evidence, I don’t speak other languages so my ability to conduct this type of research in other countries is limited. As I explained, my personal metric is an ever growing wealth gap.
Since I have provided evidence and I have done extensive research let’s turn this around. Please provide evidence of a country without an ever growing wealth gap and maybe I will believe we are not living in a fascist world.
No, I reject your musing. Numerous studies have shown the will of the people is a false premise. We live in a fascist world that uses democracy as a window dressing for oligarchy.
Which study, for example?
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba
That’s a US-only study.
They have done similar studies around the world. From my research the biggest indicator is a wealth gap. While this alone does not confirm fascism what does is an ever increasing wealth gap where an extreme minority of the population owns the majority of wealth.
Wealth inequality is a consequence of the existence of markets, and long predates “fascism.” I guess you are using that term in some kind of hyperbolic sense, but I don’t think these type of word games are very constructive.
As it happens, inequality has been moderately successfully addressed since the advent of progressive taxation and welfare states, and some of the democracies we are talking about are among the most egalitarian societies in human history, certainly when it comes to post-neolithic times.
Even aside from oligarchs behind the scenes, it is no surprise that voters’ interests and desires do not align very well with policy in the US, where a two-party system with legalized bribery is in place, and voting rights are unequally weighed and conditional. These factors are either not at all or to a much lesser extent relevant in top-tier democracies.
Thank you for responding, but please provide evidence of a country without an ever widening wealth gap or go home.
I get you don’t understand fascism. It is okay. As Mussolini put it is corporatism. The evolution of corporatism is a corportocracy. Corporations are the dominant form of all social constructs currently regardless of governments or cultures.
I also understand you are under the illusion that any country that exists provides the rights that human beings deserve. There is no country that exists that deserves humanity.
There are many examples of economies where wealth inequality is not “ever widening.” Even in very recent US history there have been times of decreasing inequality, such as in the wake of the Great Recession.
Sustained decreasing trends have been observed in many Western economies in the period from the late 19th Century to the 1980s, when many of these economies introduced redistributive measures.
Markets and inequality also long predate corporations, which emerged in the early modern period.
So then you can provide no example. As I have researched, there is no nation currently that has the trend of reducing the wealth gap. I understand you do not view this as proof and that is okay.
I brought up the fact that corporations are currently the dominant social construct in our society regardless of country. You can agree or disagree.
You gotta be careful or you’ll cut yourself on all that edge
Please, that is just the tip of the iceberg. I will gladly bring receipts.
And yet you still didn’t link a non-us study you claim there are numerous examples of.
I produced evidence, I don’t speak other languages so my ability to conduct this type of research in other countries is limited. As I explained, my personal metric is an ever growing wealth gap.
Since I have provided evidence and I have done extensive research let’s turn this around. Please provide evidence of a country without an ever growing wealth gap and maybe I will believe we are not living in a fascist world.