Terms like Foid and Maxxing come directly from incel communities.
It’s shitty but also interesting how these places outreach themselves in terms of spreading language, there was a Behind The Bastards episode on it recently I think
Never heard of “Foid” (nor do I know what it means) but “-maxxing” has become pretty widespread now and afaik even the original term (“looksmaxxing”) wasn’t a term dehumanizing women, just a dumb idea (from a community that dehumanizes women). Usually, the term “-maxxing” is used highly ironically, too, from what I could gather and quite disconnected from incel communities (maybe even claimed away, it’s not “their slang” anymore).
Also I am in my thirties and not really connected to youth slang (much less even to american youth slang since I’m from Germany). To tell me that one does not know what to tell me when making a statement as above is the least helpful thing to do.
All of the examples given are specifically terms that have to do with more conservative adjacent ideologies. If the words were things like “bet” and “cap” I’d have a different opinion. I believe you have missed the subtext of this meme entirely.
Foid bedeutet soviel wie 'female humanoid", ist also eine direkte dehumanisierung von Frauen.
Dieser slang wird auch von deutschen Jugendlichen genutzt, nur halt auf sozialen Medien die du vielleicht nicht verwendest (Instagram und tiktok sind voll davon). Falls du es mal gesehen hast, dieses Cortisol Meme ist ursprünglich eine Nazi dogwhistle.
Wie gesagt, “-maxxing” hab ich mitbekommen, aber der Weg, den das (soweit ich das mitbekommen habe) in den Mainstream genommen hat, entschärft den Begriff bzw. nimmt den Incels die Möglichkeit, sich noch großartig darauf zu berufen, was ich wiederum eigentlich ganz cool finde.
Most of the english language youth slang stems directly from fascists and incels on 4chan. They aren’t just funny words but an indicator on the radicalization of especially young men towards extremely hateful positions
As a father of two boys under 10, this is, and has been, terrifying me. I know they are going to be exposed to it. I know they are great, caring, open-minded, loving kids, and I hope I’ve thus far raised them right…but I’ve also had a few friends fall into the incel path along the way.
Like, I already know that Trump’s 2016 popularity was almost entirely driven by through 4chan, getting him popular enough to hold through the primaries while everyone else dropped out was almost completely meme-driven and aimed at impressionable young men. And by then I had already known 4chan as being a decades-long toxic dump of the internet. Shit…remember 2016 r/the_donald? Was practically 4chan-lite.
And don’t get me started on 2008, Ron Paul, and early reddit. Holy shit, man, having fallen into his fandom then and now looking at it from the outside…2008 Ron Paul feels like it was a goddamn psyop aimed at young men. Like a proof-of-concept for leveraging social-media for 2016 Trump.
If you think dehumanizing women is just “kids speaking differently today” then I don’t know what to tell you…
The fuck you talking about?
Terms like Foid and Maxxing come directly from incel communities.
It’s shitty but also interesting how these places outreach themselves in terms of spreading language, there was a Behind The Bastards episode on it recently I think
Never heard of “Foid” (nor do I know what it means) but “-maxxing” has become pretty widespread now and afaik even the original term (“looksmaxxing”) wasn’t a term dehumanizing women, just a dumb idea (from a community that dehumanizes women). Usually, the term “-maxxing” is used highly ironically, too, from what I could gather and quite disconnected from incel communities (maybe even claimed away, it’s not “their slang” anymore).
Also I am in my thirties and not really connected to youth slang (much less even to american youth slang since I’m from Germany). To tell me that one does not know what to tell me when making a statement as above is the least helpful thing to do.
All of the examples given are specifically terms that have to do with more conservative adjacent ideologies. If the words were things like “bet” and “cap” I’d have a different opinion. I believe you have missed the subtext of this meme entirely.
Foid bedeutet soviel wie 'female humanoid", ist also eine direkte dehumanisierung von Frauen.
Dieser slang wird auch von deutschen Jugendlichen genutzt, nur halt auf sozialen Medien die du vielleicht nicht verwendest (Instagram und tiktok sind voll davon). Falls du es mal gesehen hast, dieses Cortisol Meme ist ursprünglich eine Nazi dogwhistle.
Okay, “foid” ist dann wirklich kritisch.
Wie gesagt, “-maxxing” hab ich mitbekommen, aber der Weg, den das (soweit ich das mitbekommen habe) in den Mainstream genommen hat, entschärft den Begriff bzw. nimmt den Incels die Möglichkeit, sich noch großartig darauf zu berufen, was ich wiederum eigentlich ganz cool finde.
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Most of the english language youth slang stems directly from fascists and incels on 4chan. They aren’t just funny words but an indicator on the radicalization of especially young men towards extremely hateful positions
As a father of two boys under 10, this is, and has been, terrifying me. I know they are going to be exposed to it. I know they are great, caring, open-minded, loving kids, and I hope I’ve thus far raised them right…but I’ve also had a few friends fall into the incel path along the way.
Like, I already know that Trump’s 2016 popularity was almost entirely driven
bythrough 4chan, getting him popular enough to hold through the primaries while everyone else dropped out was almost completely meme-driven and aimed at impressionable young men. And by then I had already known 4chan as being a decades-long toxic dump of the internet. Shit…remember 2016 r/the_donald? Was practically 4chan-lite.And don’t get me started on 2008, Ron Paul, and early reddit. Holy shit, man, having fallen into his fandom then and now looking at it from the outside…2008 Ron Paul feels like it was a goddamn psyop aimed at young men. Like a proof-of-concept for leveraging social-media for 2016 Trump.
I said something about that already: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/26760359