• pjwestin@lemmy.world
    17·
    9 hours ago

    Look, Gen Z has some stinkers (“that’s fire,” sucks, and that’s coming from the generation that gave you, “hella,”), but their use of Chud is spectacular. A perfect encapsulation of every grubby, right-wing freak from incels to groypers. A near perfect onomatopoeia.

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        3·
        3 hours ago

        Yeah, but that doesn’t mean it was used regularly as slang, or that it carried the same connotations. “Lowkey,” has been around for ages, but it wasn’t slang until the late 90s, and it isn’t even used the same way. (“Keep it lowkey,” vs., “that was lowkey brilliant.”)

        • GorGor@startrek.websiteEnglish
          1·
          47 minutes ago

          I feel like it was though. Chode was maybe more common, but chud was used too. The movie followed the name afterall, not the other way around.

          Your example for lowkey is using it as an adverb as opposed to an adjective. A chud has always been a noun.

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 hours ago

        I’m sorry, but it really wasn’t:

        The term originates from the 1984 movie C.H.U.D. In the film, the acronym refers to a group of humanoid, flesh-eating monsters that were once humans, but mutated due to radioactive waste. While the word may have started pejorative use in 2003 to describe any repulsive person, its usage shifted as it became popular in the 2020s on sites such as Twitter and Reddit, after the podcast Chapo Trap House frequently used it to describe those who are ignorant or far-right. Source

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      4·
      7 hours ago

      It doesn’t however, offset the sin that is “foid,” calling women “female humanoids” in casual speach is dehumanizing as fuck.

        • pjwestin@lemmy.world
          9·
          6 hours ago

          Yeah, the casual way, “f*g,” was used, even into the early 2000s, is pretty shocking in hindsight.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      21·
      6 hours ago

      “Chud” went from “terminally online right-wing freak” to “fatass”/“overeater”.

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 hours ago

        Oh, I haven’t heard it used that was. I still see it used pretty much exclusively to mean, “right-wing dumb-ass,” but sometimes more broadly as, “online dumb-ass.”

        • marzhall@lemmy.world
          1·
          4 hours ago

          Personally I’ve only just started seeing it used that way on telegram within the last month, seems to be a recent thing.

  • Mwa@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    41·
    6 hours ago

    so it went from cool words to mostly stupid words and hate speech?
    plus isnt have of the slang in 2026 part mostly used on 4chan or by most 4chan users

  • treesquid@lemmy.world
    102·
    10 hours ago

    Chud is super old, the movie C.H.U.D. (Carnivorous Humanoid Underground Dwellers) came out in 1984 and has been used ever since. It’s funny that it’s most popular now, but it’s as old as the others

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
      3·
      6 hours ago

      It’s the same vein as Gen X / Millennials using “retard”, or Gen Z using “Autistic” as insulting language. It’s taking something that is a scientific diagnosis and using it as an insult to someone being stupid or dumb-witted.

      Basically weaponized ignorance due to lack of education or proper upbringing. When you’re not smart enough as a person to come up with a clever insult, use something that is inherently insulting to an entire population.

    • iocase@lemmy.zip
      5·
      8 hours ago

      Goy means a non-jewish nation or person. Goyim is plural.

      “She is a Goy” (she’s not Jewish)

      “They’re Goyim” (they’re all non Jewish)

      It doesn’t necessarily have a negative meaning to it but it can in certain contexts just like your example of “boy”. You can refer to a boy that way, or it can be used to be racist and denigrate a black man.

      • monotremata@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        5 hours ago

        So is it being used as slang outside the context of describing people as non-Jewish? I grew up in Skokie, IL, so I was familiar with the yiddish term, but I haven’t heard this new usage. Are non-jewish kids online using “goyim” to refer to outsiders of some other in-group?

  • nullspace@lemmy.world
    5·
    11 hours ago

    These days a lot of slang follows some kind of cookie cutter format. Redpill/blackpill, coomer/zoomer, X-oid, X-maxxing, etc. If it doesn’t meet some threshold of social media viability then it’s not getting adopted.

  • enkille@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    15 hours ago

    unwilling to look it up, i’m going to assume foid is a shortened form of freakazoid

  • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
    506·
    20 hours ago

    Oh no, kids today speak as differently to us as we did to prior generations, how cringe!

    Let’s go, there’s a Gammelfleischparty at the club tonight.

    • alleycat@feddit.org
      219·
      18 hours ago

      If you think dehumanizing women is just “kids speaking differently today” then I don’t know what to tell you…

        • Kobibi@sh.itjust.works
          162·
          16 hours ago

          Terms like Foid and Maxxing come directly from incel communities.

          It’s shitty but also interesting how these places outreach themselves in terms of spreading language, there was a Behind The Bastards episode on it recently I think

          • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
            146·
            16 hours ago

            Never heard of “Foid” (nor do I know what it means) but “-maxxing” has become pretty widespread now and afaik even the original term (“looksmaxxing”) wasn’t a term dehumanizing women, just a dumb idea (from a community that dehumanizes women). Usually, the term “-maxxing” is used highly ironically, too, from what I could gather and quite disconnected from incel communities (maybe even claimed away, it’s not “their slang” anymore).

            Also I am in my thirties and not really connected to youth slang (much less even to american youth slang since I’m from Germany). To tell me that one does not know what to tell me when making a statement as above is the least helpful thing to do.

            • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
              61·
              14 hours ago

              All of the examples given are specifically terms that have to do with more conservative adjacent ideologies. If the words were things like “bet” and “cap” I’d have a different opinion. I believe you have missed the subtext of this meme entirely.

            • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              51·
              16 hours ago

              Foid bedeutet soviel wie 'female humanoid", ist also eine direkte dehumanisierung von Frauen.

              Dieser slang wird auch von deutschen Jugendlichen genutzt, nur halt auf sozialen Medien die du vielleicht nicht verwendest (Instagram und tiktok sind voll davon). Falls du es mal gesehen hast, dieses Cortisol Meme ist ursprünglich eine Nazi dogwhistle.

              • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
                2·
                13 hours ago

                Okay, “foid” ist dann wirklich kritisch.

                Wie gesagt, “-maxxing” hab ich mitbekommen, aber der Weg, den das (soweit ich das mitbekommen habe) in den Mainstream genommen hat, entschärft den Begriff bzw. nimmt den Incels die Möglichkeit, sich noch großartig darauf zu berufen, was ich wiederum eigentlich ganz cool finde.

        • Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          92·
          16 hours ago

          Most of the english language youth slang stems directly from fascists and incels on 4chan. They aren’t just funny words but an indicator on the radicalization of especially young men towards extremely hateful positions

          • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
            2·
            43 minutes ago

            As a father of two boys under 10, this is, and has been, terrifying me. I know they are going to be exposed to it. I know they are great, caring, open-minded, loving kids, and I hope I’ve thus far raised them right…but I’ve also had a few friends fall into the incel path along the way.

            Like, I already know that Trump’s 2016 popularity was almost entirely driven by through 4chan, getting him popular enough to hold through the primaries while everyone else dropped out was almost completely meme-driven and aimed at impressionable young men. And by then I had already known 4chan as being a decades-long toxic dump of the internet. Shit…remember 2016 r/the_donald? Was practically 4chan-lite.

            And don’t get me started on 2008, Ron Paul, and early reddit. Holy shit, man, having fallen into his fandom then and now looking at it from the outside…2008 Ron Paul feels like it was a goddamn psyop aimed at young men. Like a proof-of-concept for leveraging social-media for 2016 Trump.