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    There were times people were saying it was ok to enslave black and gays because they were not human beings. Do you want to steep down to their level?

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      You’re barking up the wrong tree pal. You might as well be asking me to show some sympathy for Hitler or his family.

      I hope he died scared and alone and that it was painful.

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            Yup, Mitch was a political powerhouse who used that power to cause untold suffering through greed. I think everyone deserves to be treated as a human until they’ve shown they don’t treat others that way. Then they should be treated like an invasive species.

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          I’ll correct this: I state my opinions which are often different from what the polarized US population will accept.

          Here I’m just stating it is immoral to cheer for someone to die.

          If that looks like trolling to you, and I’m not christian, remember what Jesus preached.

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            i actually think morality is a lot more complex than you give it credit for.

            i also think your boring views are much more popular than you want to admit.

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                    Compassion goes both ways

                    what the polarized US population will accept

                    and I’m not christian, remember what Jesus preached

                    …bad troll. Factually bad at trolling. Sorry 'bout you; maybe try getting good? Not everyone is from the US, and not everyone sucks so hard at flaming division. Be better

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        Valid wish, he is still human. I forgot where I read it, but there was a saying going like: “Nazis are human, one must never forget that. Such terrible humans that I am ready to bash their skulls in, but humans nonetheless.”

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          Fair point. Someone else responded more logically further down with what equates to my own beliefs.

          I’m just sick of the summer-child mentality that says we have to police our emotions to protect the feelings of the worst of us.

          If you dont want to piss on a dead man’s grave that’s cool, but you dont need to be here while I unzip.

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            Also valid. I also don’t like this “you gotta take the high road” approach, but I am absolutely allergic to dehumanization.

            So, piss away, friend :)

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        I hope you’re joking, frankly I don’t even know who we’re talking about, but recognizing someone is a human being is a basic human right.

        If you want to go against all moral conventions by all means do that, but don’t expect anyone to sustain you.

        This is not showing sympathy for Hitler, this would be saying Hitler was already sick and dying and still feeling happy about him dying anyway. Have a little compassion for your fellow humans.

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          See, I knew you didnt know who he was. I dont have the time to educate you on the two decades of racist, manipulative, and evil shit that this man did in congress (or just how gleefully he did it all) but if you want just one person to blame for the state of the world you can look to Mitch McConnell and find at least 6 ways he made it all possible.

          I will celebrate his death.

          McConnell helped put the most racist ass black man in the Supreme Court seat of a civil rights legend and thats just the cherry of fuckery he’s responsible for.

          Fuck high ground morality.

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            I do not care, it can be the most despicable person and I’d hope something happens so that he stops doing despicable things, not his death. I am not happy of a person dies, as much as I could hate such a person. What you wrote is a really terrible message, I hope that is not your actual opinion. If that is the case, have a coffe and think about it; smoke a joint or take some psychedelics, those tend to help connect with humanity.

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              You don’t understand that the level of evil a person lick McConnell is separates them from humanity and the rights included. As far as I’m concerned, his disregard of others human rights negates his own. You’re literally cheering for Hitler to get better.

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              I do not care

              Welp, That really explains it.

              Also your response to the Hitler analogy is hilarious, you can’t seriously die on that hill. When it’s Hitler, or Mitch McConnell, or Charlie Kirk, liberals love to say “nobody should ever die, you’re evil for thinking that!” While you probably champion the murder of communists like Che Guevara because “that’s a real evil ideology”. Even for others like Ghadaffi or Bin Laden, I bet you were real happy when those deaths happened. I’ve read it all before from you guys, your political analysis starts and ends at “leftists are the absolute violent evil and we should capitulate to right wing extremism like Candace Owen’s and Charlie Kirk because authoritarianism totalitarianism violent rhetoric antifa blah blah blah”. don’t even get me started on a certain healthcare CEO.

              Regardless of the communist argument; It’s a good thing when fascists die. When Trump does, it’ll be a good day for everyone except for you. Lol

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                I’m afraid you’re very much mistaken regarding my political ideology. I don’t know why you brought political ideology into a conversation about basic human rights, morals and compassion. Since you appear really interested in it, rather than going in depth regarding my opinion on several topics I’ll just say that last elections in my country I voted the communist party.

                I assume you’re from the US, since you use the expression liberal to refer to right leaning ideologies. If that is the case, be advised that I consider the whole spectrum of US politics to be on the far right. Bernie Sanders is more or less as far right as Giorgia Meloni Is.

                Now that we got that out of the way, no I don’t like that Charlie Kirk was killed; despite not knowing who he was until he was killed. My country was allied with Gaddafi and I really despise that we helped in killing him.

                I really despise your current president, but I’d be satisfied with him not being president anymore; I do not wish his premature death.

                Please, reconsider the way you express yourself to other people and the anger you transmit. It is not necessary.

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                  I don’t know why you brought political ideology into a conversation about basic human rights, morals and compassion.

                  You must not understand materialism, or Marxism, or politics at all, then. These people whose lives you want to protect will kill you for less than a dollar.

                  if certain people pass away today, the world literally becomes a better place. Singular people uphold systems that would cease almost immediately if they were to pass.

                  Hitler is a great example of a man who literally should have died earlier and for some reason you just reallllyyyyy want to show you’re better than everyone by saying you wouldn’t want him to die. The world would have been better off he died earlier. Millions of people wouldn’t have lost their lives.

                  That’s not sanctity of life at all, that’s just being ignorant. It’s ok if people die. Everyone will die. Sometimes it’s good.

                  You’re telling me you wouldn’t even feel a little feeling of relief if you were alive during WW2 and you heard Hitler was dead?

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                    You’re telling me you wouldn’t even feel a little feeling of relief if you were alive during WW2 and you heard Hitler was dead?

                    No, I did not say that. I would indeed have felt relieved.

                    The man is already in a coma in a hospital bed and people is wishing him death, is he so dangerous in his coma that you should wish him to die?

                    That’s not sanctity of life at all, that’s just being ignorant. It’s ok if people die.

                    Agreed, but it is not ok to wish death on people in my opinion. I do see a difference between people dying and wishing them death.

                    There’s a difference with I hope Nazi Germany stops being Nazi and Hitler loses power and saying I want Hitler to die. The way in which Hitler loses power might as well be his death, but that is not the only way. In the same way, there are ways in which Hitler could have died but Nazi Germany persisted.

                    As a matter of fact Hitler did not lose power because he died, he died because he lost power.