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    I personally don’t think he’s dead. I think it’s far more likely that he only technically alive on life support.

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      This is the most likely outcome. He’s obv been on deaths door for a while, they’re just trying to keep it going until gen elec

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    I remember a few years ago, the Japanese PM, Shinzo Abe, resigned from his position due to a chronic health condition that was worsening. He resigned of his own accord and made a public statement saying that he’s stepping down because he did not want to make any major political or policy mistakes that would compromise the welfare of the nation. He was only 65 at the time, but still had the humility to recognize the weight of his position.

    Meanwhile, we have 80+ year old dinosaurs that are brain dead and on life support that are still clinging on to power to their very dying breath regardless of the harm it does to the nation. Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, Clarence Thomas, Maxine Waters, Eleanor Holmes Norton, and the list goes on and on. It’s time for all of them to fuck off. Even Bernie Sanders needs to go. It’s time to step back and enjoy retirement.

    These parasites are literally the reason why we’re in the mess we are in today. Their greed and selfishness is so extreme that it’s like a disease. The dinosaurs that did go extinct like Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Dianne Feinstein ended up leaving headaches for everybody else because they just couldn’t step down gracefully. It’s fucking embarrassing that we’re even allowing these leeches to stay in power as a country. It’s embarrassing that people are seriously wanting age limits for their politicians because these ghouls are soulless. When you look at actual civilized countries like Japan, you could only dream of what could be here.

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      Shinzo Abe … humility

      Those words don’t go together at all… unless you add a “no” before humility. ‘Poor health’ was an excuse given to cover for him breaking his promise to never resign, and he resigned because of the unpopularity of himself and the party scandals at the time. Wikipedia has a good summary:

      Abe’s ruling Liberal Democratic Party suffered great losses in the upper house election, losing control for the first time in 52 years. Agricultural minister, Norihiko Akagi, involved in a political funding scandal, resigned after the election. Additionally, Abe’s rejection of a possible female Japanese monarch, which led to the Japanese succession controversy, diminished his support base.[47][48] In an attempt to revive his administration, Abe announced a new cabinet in August 2007. Support for Abe rose by 10 percent as a result; however, the new agricultural minister Takehiko Endo, involved in a finance scandal, resigned only seven days later.[49]

      On 12 September 2007, only three days after a new parliamentary session had begun, Abe announced his intention to resign his position as prime minister at an unscheduled press conference.[50][51] The announcement came just minutes before opposition leaders were scheduled to question him in Parliament and shocked many. Abe had described himself as a “politician who fights” and previously pledged not to resign.[52] Abe explained that his unpopularity was hindering the passage of an anti-terrorism law, involving among other things Japan’s continued military presence in Afghanistan. Party officials also said the embattled prime minister was suffering from poor health.

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      Power is really that addictive. In ancient cultures, those who hoarded wealth were thought of as mad or of poor moral character, and there are modern psychological studies that show that anyone who is given power without consequences will abuse it and begin to believe that they are somehow deserving of the advantage.

      The problem this time is that the ultra-wealthy have so much of the wealth that they can buy elections and control governments across the world, and no-one near them dares be anything but sycophantic, except their similarly-vicious billionaire peers.

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    Curiously, Feinstein was incoherent and had to be wheeled into committee in a wheelchair for a while before she finally expired, still in office.

    We’ve seen countless times that officials, whether elected or appointed, will cling onto power until we pry it from their cold dead hands.

    We really need to implement age caps as well as term limits, since we can’t count on elected officials being pressured into retirement by their own peers, nor can we count on the voters primarying them since it means losing the incumbent advantage.

    Sadly, as with much of political reform, the status quo serves those who are in office, so there’s not much motivation to implement such legislation, and the public is not great at organizing over secondary matters.

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    He died as he lived, usurping the rule of law and stealing power for his fascist party

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      It’s like a full Viking funeral for assholes.

      If his desires were tattooed, dated and notorized, on his chest the only surprise would be that he had contemplated his mortality.

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    Ya know. When I was a kid, I was horrified reading a reveal in a book where the queen was actually a corpse that was being puppeted around to hold off a succession war.

    Every once in a while I think about it again

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        This also fits the times we live in alarmingly well—because of the absurdity of it all. Well, it’s hardly surprising, given that we’re seem to be heading back toward the dark ages with its anti-progress monarchs who would rather see the world burn than relinquish any of their power. I think today’s billionaires are very much in that tradition.

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      I mean, you’re not wrong. He probably loved the idea of still being an evil cunt even after death.

      And now I’m even more pissed at RBG, she could still be on life support today if only she’d planned accordingly.

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      Having his twitching, lifeless carcass hooked up to a machine to keep it functional enough to be used as a ghoulish puppet to subvert democracy one last time.

      Maybe for an encore he can have his corpse injected with Ebola and launched at a food bank lineup from a catapult.

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        He was a soulless fuck. He’s literally been compared to Palpatine. Yes, he absolutely would want his fucking corpse used for the cause.

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            I pointed out elsewhere, that before we heard about Trump everyday, we used to hear about Mitch McConnell.

            Trump just stole the rig that McConnell spent his career building for the right.

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              Exactly! And Mitch is secretly mad it was Trump and not someone more savvy with power who got it. If ANY of the other nominees had won besides Trump they would have started all this back in 2016.

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        You are talking about a person, have a little respect. We can completely disagree on politics, but not on ones health.

        Your message really is disgusting.

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    Everyone knows it.

    They will get away with it.

    This is the reality of the new Fascist America.

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      And Kentucky voted for this for what, 40 years? Hes held his seat since 1985. I wasn’t even born yet and I’m 40.

      America is a fucking cesspool.

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        Kentucky is part of the long-corrupt South. Even when Jim Crow laws and black voter suppression became illegal, the corruption was too deep to route out.

        McConnell’s seat was secured by election tampering the whole time. So Kentuckians didn’t vote for him, but they “voted” for him.

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    If he’s effectively brain dead he could be on a ventilator. Some 1-in-a-million chance of recovery that they’re using to keep him ‘alive’ to hold the seat

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      I would hope they’re trying to keep him alive because he is a human being and that is how you treat other human beings, regardless of who they are or what their opinions are.

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          There were times people were saying it was ok to enslave black and gays because they were not human beings. Do you want to steep down to their level?

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            You’re barking up the wrong tree pal. You might as well be asking me to show some sympathy for Hitler or his family.

            I hope he died scared and alone and that it was painful.

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                  Yup, Mitch was a political powerhouse who used that power to cause untold suffering through greed. I think everyone deserves to be treated as a human until they’ve shown they don’t treat others that way. Then they should be treated like an invasive species.

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                I’ll correct this: I state my opinions which are often different from what the polarized US population will accept.

                Here I’m just stating it is immoral to cheer for someone to die.

                If that looks like trolling to you, and I’m not christian, remember what Jesus preached.

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                  i actually think morality is a lot more complex than you give it credit for.

                  i also think your boring views are much more popular than you want to admit.

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              Valid wish, he is still human. I forgot where I read it, but there was a saying going like: “Nazis are human, one must never forget that. Such terrible humans that I am ready to bash their skulls in, but humans nonetheless.”

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                Fair point. Someone else responded more logically further down with what equates to my own beliefs.

                I’m just sick of the summer-child mentality that says we have to police our emotions to protect the feelings of the worst of us.

                If you dont want to piss on a dead man’s grave that’s cool, but you dont need to be here while I unzip.

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                  Also valid. I also don’t like this “you gotta take the high road” approach, but I am absolutely allergic to dehumanization.

                  So, piss away, friend :)

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              I hope you’re joking, frankly I don’t even know who we’re talking about, but recognizing someone is a human being is a basic human right.

              If you want to go against all moral conventions by all means do that, but don’t expect anyone to sustain you.

              This is not showing sympathy for Hitler, this would be saying Hitler was already sick and dying and still feeling happy about him dying anyway. Have a little compassion for your fellow humans.

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                See, I knew you didnt know who he was. I dont have the time to educate you on the two decades of racist, manipulative, and evil shit that this man did in congress (or just how gleefully he did it all) but if you want just one person to blame for the state of the world you can look to Mitch McConnell and find at least 6 ways he made it all possible.

                I will celebrate his death.

                McConnell helped put the most racist ass black man in the Supreme Court seat of a civil rights legend and thats just the cherry of fuckery he’s responsible for.

                Fuck high ground morality.

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                  I do not care, it can be the most despicable person and I’d hope something happens so that he stops doing despicable things, not his death. I am not happy of a person dies, as much as I could hate such a person. What you wrote is a really terrible message, I hope that is not your actual opinion. If that is the case, have a coffe and think about it; smoke a joint or take some psychedelics, those tend to help connect with humanity.

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        You benefit the Jeffrey Epstein Class when you bring this nonsense talk about saving absolutely every single human being in the world. I used to be in your position a few years ago, but I already learnt that killing evil is an OBLIGATION even the Christian Bible encourages everyone to have in mind.

        The Jeffrey Epstein Class monopolized violence. They allow themselves to kill millions of people just like you with a fat smile on their faces. They successfully convinced you that killing “is an absolute wrong that should never be done,” but they’re wrong. Our bodies, our cells, they are constantly making DNA errors. Those cells with a damaged DNA have to kill themselves with Apoptosis, otherwise, the immune system does it, it goes and kills it. Why? Because if they allow it to continue, it’ll divide uncontrollable, creating a tumor that only leeches off our body and slowly kills it in a very painful and slow way. The planet Earth, or Humanity, is no different to a human body. If Nazis won and became the influence of the world, Humanity would probably be such a racist, intolerant and disgusting race that eradicated certain cultures entirely, Jews being one of them, and I hate Zionists, but what about you?

        You rather keep protecting those cancers that are killing millions of innocent people with their actions, decisions and even hands? You think it’s worth for Humanity to waste so much time and innocent lives to “save” those irredeemable monsters? Why? Why do you want us to pay millions of innocent lives just to save an old asshole that has nothing creative, fun or worthwhile to share anymore? No art, no personality, nothing of real value to us. He only brought pain, suffering, injustice, and so much death and destruction.

        You are not morally superior NOR responsible for this stance you carry. You’re actually evil for protecting those monsters. People like you have never faced true evil in their lives, this is why it’s so easy for you to speak like this. You don’t look wise, superior or like a divine entity if you forgave your daughter’s killer or rapist, or a man who killed your entire family while laughing, and celebrated it for decades. Nah, you’re just a naive child or something equally ignorant that is only going to slow down Humanity’s growth.

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          Chill out, you know nothing about me; show some respect.

          I’m just saying that hoping someone in a hospital bed dies is not nice. Does it make a big difference whether he dies or survives for you Jeffrey Epstein class?

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            This color of yours is so fucking disgusting, weak and cowardly, I am not interested in meeting you anymore. You are someone who benefits pedophiles and killers in power.

            They look at you with a smile right now. “Look at this guy. Defending us. We need more people like him discouraging everyone from ever touching us, so we can continue putting our dicks inside these poor little girls we kidnapped, in peace and harmony. So we can continue passing laws that leech more money off the working class, essentially forcing them to live in a “luxurious jail:” their own home, with the bare minimum nutrition and entertainment possible so they don’t revolt and we keep making a profit we use to hire more bodyguards that will give their lives for ours. And people like ranzispa, who do an amazing job at convincing people that killing us is wrong. Oh wait, I came inside this little girl, popped her cherry just like Trump and I, Jeffrey Epstein, did to Katie Johnson, but at least we did not sent her to get her head blown with a bullet and then buried like most girls! We can have a heart too! We can be human, trust us!”

            Listen, you dumbfuck. Have you ever read at least the words of the victims in your life? Have you for example, at least read Katie Johnson’s lawsuit against Donald and Jeffrey? The things they did to her? Here, have a glimpse of the shit you are helping protect and defend, you disgusting monster:

            This is not even the tip of the iceberg. This is still “soft and light” compared to other shit they have done. You deserve no respect, only humiliation for showing so much passion for such a dumbass idea like “we should not kill evil.” Fuck off. You are a demon in disguise. The only shit that can redeem you right now is if you at least change your idea to “they are still human, victims of the randomness and cruelty of this universe, but that doesn’t mean we must tolerate them. They must go to jail, permanently.” If you’re so afraid of killing, at least jail them permanently, which is essentially the same shit. It’s torture in a tiny ass room, isolation, cockroaches right next to you, the toilet too, the smell, everything is shit in jail, you know that, but it is what they deserve.

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              I don’t know what you’re talking about. If you ever spoke to me that way I would punch you. Please refrain talking on the internet in ways you wouldn’t do in person.

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                Are you mentally challenged or something? You defend evil demons by discouraging everybody from killing them. Period.

                You are not morally superior or responsible for carrying an idea like “killing is always bad.” That’s fucking naive shit. And shut the fuck up about punching me you clown, you already proved to be a little bitch who cannot punish a massive pedophile, rapist or killer like Trump or Jeffrey. Like, shut the fuck up, I speak like this in person to people like you, because they fucking deserve it. That included my cousin, who became a Trump supporter just because he promised him bitcoin would raise in price. He lowkey sold us, his family, friends and country, Mexico, for less than 50,000$ MXN pesos, not even 3 months of rent; shit he could make in one month because he graduated as a doctor in ITESM, but no, thanks to Capitalism and the people in power, also he doesn’t have the incentive or opportunities to build a decent life.

                Yet, here you are, trying to convince us to adapt to these absolute shitty conditions and system instead of doing anything about it like EATING THE RICH. Shut the fuck up and EAT DIRT.

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                  I’m afraid you’re an idiot, I hope you get better and learn to talk with people.

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                Go on and show everyone you’re still redeemable, tell us these monsters AT LEAST deserve to go to jail PERMANENTLY. Go on, read this. This is only a tiny piece of what happens in the darkest corners of Humanity. If you knew how worse it is among the poorest corners, the most violent ones, those involved with Mafias. Ever seen the videos? I once saw some Narcos who had a father and son on their knees, in front of the camera. At their sides, you’d see two narcos dressed like your typical American Military Soldier, holding machetes. They started with the father, while taunting the son, who was probably 14 years old judging by his voice and appearance. “Look at what you did. It’s all his fault. Look at what you did. He deserved it you dumb fucking son of a bitch” and so on while they were literally chopping the neck of his father, and the kid wouldn’t stop crying and screaming. Then they beheaded the child, laid their heads on top of the corpses, and that was it. That was the end of those two. That’s the type of shit I had to see and hear about almost daily during the early 2010s when the Narco wars exploded. All thanks to America pouring guns and blood money to them. This shit keeps us scared, which makes us work for cheap wages. We are cheap labor when desperate and afraid, that’s why American leaders keep us like this. 30,000+ Mexicans die every year to violence like this, homicides, guns and torture. The USA is not that far from us, with 20,000+ deaths every year. Thousands of deaths you never read or hear about. They were too poor to be heard.

                That’s what you want to continue happening, no? You don’t want us to defend ourselves, because you want the elite to continue killing us for money and entertainment, no? That’s what you are. You just want innocent people to continue dying, no? Or what? Why are you trying to guilt-trip us for wanting to kill such demons? What the fuck is wrong with you? You think we don’t feel bad or sad deep, and I mean, very deep inside because they WERE humans too? Little babies and kids who probably had some crazy traumas? We already know all that shit, dog. We spent decades tolerating and trying to save that light, but we keep being stomped and exploited. Shit has done nothing but gotten worse everywhere.

                Why the fuck don’t you want Humanity to defend itself?

                Here is the entire document of Katie Johnson describing the shit Trump and Jeffrey did to her. Remember, she’s just one girl of hundreds. And they are just 2 powerful pedophiles out of hundreds, nah, thousands actually. Tell us why shouldn’t we storm their homes and take everything they have so we can give it to more humane and responsible people, eh? Better have a good answer, because this stance you’re taking, it is not going to convince an angry mob of sparing you.

                https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-flsd-9_08-cv-80804/pdf/USCOURTS-flsd-9_08-cv-80804-0.pdf

                This shit SHOULD BE making you angry to the point of wanting to choke these monsters with your own hands. If it is not, it means you don’t really care about people or saving Humanity. I don’t care if you’re super religious and whatever; even the Bible encourages us to punish these demons asap. You’re not doing this for morality or divinity; I wonder if you’re doing it because you do actually support the Jeffrey Epstein Class deep down.

                I think the issue might be that the voices of all the innocents that died unjustly throughout History are not screaming loud enough for your consciousness to hear them yet. But don’t worry, though. There’s a lot of people who will happily do it for you. They will happily remind you of their pain and continue doing so until you finally change for the better.

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        By keeping them alive in old age and illness? There are things worse than death, and I have seen some of these things. If Mitch truly is in a one in a million type coma the only reasons he’s being kept alive are wealth and status, not humanity.

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          Eutanasia should be a choice. Him being kept alive is what should happen to any person unless they deliberately stated they do not want to. It does not take wealth to be kept alive, or at least it should not. I guess in the US it is expensive to be kept alive, but I’m pretty sure even there they wouldn’t let you die just because you don’t have money.

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            In a coma you can’t make such a choice. It’s a minority that have advance directives and often the ones kept alive are those with no one that cares enough about them to act mercifully.

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        No, it would be cruel to keep someone technically alive on a ventilator past hope of their revival. And I say this as someone whose dad died after being removed from a ventilator during the COVID-19 pandemic. My mother refused to allow him to die on their wedding anniversary and so he was kept alive an extra day, which I still find selfish and cruel.

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    I think the actual process is lost on a lot of people. Apparently there is no process to remove McConnell while he’s alive unless he resigns. Meaning if he’s on life support there’s nothing anyone can do. His seat just remains as is. I honestly think no one knows what’s going on with him. Apparently according to sources he’s been in a coma for 3 full weeks.

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    They’re probably keeping his braindead body on life support. Can’t have him rotting before entering the 3 month window before the election.

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    im pretty sure its the other way around; If they hold out for 1 more month, they have to have a special election. If they don’t hold out for a month, the governor (who is a democrat) gets to appoint someone.

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      afaik it’s by election only now to fill a vacant senate seat from kentucky. the republicant super-majority in that state legislature passed a law that took the governor, including the sitting 2-term democrat, out of that process.

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    Can someone please contact the coroner in his hometown? If he’s actually dead, they’d have to tell you.