Original post is def spot on though.
The modern homeschool movement is born out of an attempt to stop the kids from realizing being traded as brood stock like their parents’ property to make business with their friends over is bullshit.
Also just so parents can choose the “truth” they are teaching kids. That’s how you get uneducated racists and the like
I think this model of education is damaging to kids and the government should do something about it
I’m going to train my kids to fucking kill you
Most normal libertarian response
Maybe not outright illegal, but I think it should be heavily regulated. I’ve heard way too many stories of kids being raised in isolation and barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.
barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.
yah that was me.
There was no actual “schooling” it was just a cover-story so people didn’t pry and learn that my parents were too crazy/drunk/high/delusional to properly raise children. The first couple decades of my life I basically just wandered in the desert alone around my parent’s “religious compound” a couple hours from the nearest town and tried to get my hands on any actual scientific or rational reading material that extended family members managed to smuggle in.
It had disastrous impact on my adult life. I did go to school later and excelled and soared through AP college classes… but with my life so handicapped from the start, I was unable to continue higher education due to poverty, unable to land a stable career, and worst of all, severe depression and anxiety from the CPTSD of basically spending 20 years of my most important developmental years isolated with two toxic, hateful, abusive parents and literally NOBODY else. I became non-verbal for years, people thought I was autistic. I have been in and out of therapy, on and off meds, and have had long, extended struggles with substance abuse, depression so bad I can’t move some days, and thoughts of self-harm.
My parents were absolutely convinced that biblical prophecy was real and was about to be fulfilled, they saw themselves as actual prophets or chosen ones that would play a part in the coming apocalypse, and for years of my life I was also convinced that I was part of some greater destiny.
Fast forward through my adult life, and I’m clearing out my parent’s belongings after they drank themselves to death, wondering what the fuck happened and what my real future is going to look like. Do you think AI is going to replace grocery baggers? Because I fully see myself at 80 bagging groceries.
Homeschooling is allowed in my country, but they have to take exams in front of a jury to prove they have been properly schooled.
I think you mean invidulator, everyone knows what you mean just trying to be helpful. That’s an officially appointed watcher at exams, a jury is a team of people who give a verdict in a legal case.
And yeah that’s the best way for sure, some places have mandatory participation in community events too which i think is good
No, you seem to be describing someone who supervises an exam. What I mean is a committee/inspection that decides if the homeschooling meets the objectives set by the governments and that the student has a sufficient understanding of the teachings.
My brother and sisiter-in-law briefly did “homeschooling” with their kids. I put the word in scare quotes because it wasn’t what people normally think of when they consider homeschooling. It was actually a private school which the kids went to four days a week and then one day a week the parents guided the kids at home through a lesson plan prepared by the school. The only point of this was that it allowed the school to hire non-accredited and non-union teachers since it was ostensibly homeschooling and not a normal school.
At least it saved the parents money, right? Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.
Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.
Right, universal education is not a thing in
USSAAmerican Empire.huh? public school is free
And underfunded
That comes with the territory of not being relevant to short term corporate profits and also being paid for by taxes. Though if and how underfunded depends on the county, since it’s usually paid for primarily by local property taxes.
As someone who was home-schooled, I absolutely agree with Cosmonaut Star. I dodged the alt-right insanity of modern homeschooling, but I got the “okay sit here and do learning unsupervised for a while” treatment after I turned 11 or 12. Prior to then I feel like my parents did an okay job at making sure I was keeping up with normal kids and taking me to social gatherings and stuff, but that just gradually slipped away the older I got. I feel like I’m still unpacking mental baggage from basically not having a life in my teens.
Thank fuck I got into self-hosting, networking, and Linux/BSD stuff in general as a hobby otherwise I would have zero marketable skills for a job.
Hanging, for an opinion? That seems pretty un-libertarian, doesn’t it?
No no, they just mean that people like that should have large penises. Extremely libertarian.
Very sad when libertarians (i.e. republicans that are too cowardly to publicly own that they are republicans) get burned so bad and don’t have a collectively funded community Fire Department or public roads where anyone could travel to put out the fire.
A true libertarian community would have a collectively funded Fire Department and publicly funded roads.
Libertarians do not want to pay “taxes”. Taxes are a portion of your money the government forcefully takes and does whatever they want with.
Public services that a libertarian uses, they would feel like they would have to pay for.
Joe drives to work. He takes a toll road (not saying toll roads are a good solution). He pays for the road that he is using.
Steve rides the bus to work. His bus ticket will have the cost of the roads fixed in.
Joe doesn’t want to lose everything in a fire. He gets insurance. Insurance company doesn’t want to lose the whole house. They get a fire department.
Right now we pay 100% of the fire department in taxes. While paying full price for insurance. Insurance companies get to use the fire department for free.
The idea that giving up ~40% of your work in hopes that the government takes care of you is ridiculous (Social Security is a government ran ponzi scheme). The idea that giving up ~40% of your work in hopes that the government takes care of someone else is also ridiculous.
The government used every penny of taxes you have paid or ever will pay to not even make a dent in the bail out of privately owned banks. Hell, they probably handed Tom Brady more than that in just the PPP loans he received and never had to pay back.
But life can’t function without government taxes /s
No taxation without representation. Do you feel represented?
Boo fucking hoo a small portion of “your” money goes to keeping your neighbors’ houses from burning down.
Also, you think most people are out there paying 40% in taxes? You either live in Scandinavia or you’ve never had a job before.
Lastly, “No taxation without representation?” Who says? A bunch of selfish, greedy, white, landowning, people-owning assholes hundreds of years ago? Fuck them. Taxes are a part of society.
The idea that giving up ~40% of your work in hopes that the government takes care of you is ridiculous (Social Security is a government ran ponzi scheme).
The average person makes 65k in the US
They would pay 10k in federal income tax (15.4%)
They would pay 4k in social security (6.2%)
They would pay 2.6k in state income tax (~4%)
So out of the 65k, they get to keep 48.4k
Business would pay 4k in social security for you (6.2%)
With: Get paid 65k, walk home with 48.4k
Without: Get paid 69k, walk home with 69k.
69k - 48.4k = 20.2k
20.2k ÷ 69k = .29
Without federal/state/SS tax, the average person would have 30% more
Sales tax is ~5%
48.4k × 5% = 2.4k
If they used all their money to buy stuff, their actual purchasing power would be. They’d only have 46k to spend.
69k - 46k = 23k
23k ÷ 69k = .33
Average person gets to spend about 66% of their “actual pay”
I’d call that ~40%
65k - 48.4k = 16.6k
Let’s assume 20 years old and retire at 67
47 years of working
S&P500 has had an average annual rate of return of 10% since being created in 1957.
Let’s say 5% APR because 10% is realistic, but it’s not guaranteed.
Extra 16.6k a year is about 1.4k per month.
If someone invested 1.4k per month for 47 years at 5%, interest compounded annually.
They would have 3 million in a retirement fund. (10% is 14.6m)
A 30-year mortgage is currently 7.5%. You could put the 1.4k a month into that and basically get a 7.5% guaranteed return.
Making 65k, walking home with 48.4k. Having to spend an extra 2.4k If you want to buy anything with the 48.4k because you really can only buy 46k worth of stuff. While giving up a 3m-14.6m retirement fund.
That’s a “small portion”?
This isn’t even counting health insurance. You make 65k the government isn’t helping you out.
This is also not counting property tax.
You’re giving up 1.4k a month so the government can give you 1.4k a month (hopefully) when you turn 67.
The government uses your potential 3m-14.6m for its own needs in the meantime
A functioning true libertarian community is a collection of co-ops, with a member owned insurance + investment company in the center replacing taxes and gov spending and driving regulatory decisionmaking.
I’ve never seen anybody successfully build it IRL and keep it working, but feel free to try.
But the cruise ship, bro?
I wish twitter would hurry up and die.
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Twitter.
I can’t help but notice you got quite serious in last few days
I’ve always been serious.
