Paul Verhoeven did a beautiful job of critiquing fascism. I can’t help it that my fellow citizens are stupid other than to vote for more money in education.
If modern movies have shown us anything, being unsubtle and blatantly preaching at the audience in a way that everyone will understand also doesn’t have an effect. It just gets labelled as “woke” or whatever by people that have fascist tendencies.
I find that kind of thing annoying myself, even when I agree with the message.
I prefer the movies of the past where you weren’t spoonfed the message and had to think about it.
To be fair, though, I did really like Jojo Rabbit, and I don’t think that one’s been latched onto by them in nearly the same way. Could be wrong, though.
The thing that’s really difficult for them is that Jojo Rabbit never makes them look cool. Hitler throws a tantrum because a little boy doesn’t like him, then he gets kicked in the balls.
The book was seriously bleak. The movie was a let down in that way. I had a few friends who couldn’t understand how the humans were just as bad as the bugs. In the book it really was everybody fights.
The movie was straight up a parody of a propaganda film made by the fascist society from the book. It’s a satire meant to make you think about fascist propaganda.
But it was too similar to other action movies that people didn’t get what it was. Which is kinda scary really.
I think it may not have conveyed what it was trying to do when it was in theaters, but my friends and I (millennials so we saw it as kids) watch it as a ridiculous satire. One of my favourite movies I think. Sadly, I love Hackers, but that is not a satire, they were trying real hard.
Not the point of this post but I think starship troopers did an excellent job of skewering the military, government, and the whole propaganda machine.
Yeah it’s not the movies fault that people have zero media literacy
Paul Verhoeven did a beautiful job of critiquing fascism. I can’t help it that my fellow citizens are stupid other than to vote for more money in education.
I’m doing my part.
i would buy that for a dollar!
YES! Another Verhoeven banger! Straight from Old Detroit.
see you at the party richter ;-)
verhoeven was over the top.
My critique of Starship Troopers is that it’s not a good satire of fascism if the people it needs to reach don’t understand it.
If modern movies have shown us anything, being unsubtle and blatantly preaching at the audience in a way that everyone will understand also doesn’t have an effect. It just gets labelled as “woke” or whatever by people that have fascist tendencies.
I find that kind of thing annoying myself, even when I agree with the message.
I prefer the movies of the past where you weren’t spoonfed the message and had to think about it.
If you have to make it such that even those people understand it, it becomes unwatchable to the rest of us.
What, you didn’t like Dr Strangelove?
I remember someone saying Dr. Strangelove was stupid because there’s no way the US would employ Nazis as their scientists.
Did they also complain about Django Unchained because the US would never have slaves?
To be fair, though, I did really like Jojo Rabbit, and I don’t think that one’s been latched onto by them in nearly the same way. Could be wrong, though.
The thing that’s really difficult for them is that Jojo Rabbit never makes them look cool. Hitler throws a tantrum because a little boy doesn’t like him, then he gets kicked in the balls.
Mobile infantry made me the man I am today!
The book was seriously bleak. The movie was a let down in that way. I had a few friends who couldn’t understand how the humans were just as bad as the bugs. In the book it really was everybody fights.
Was this talking about the movie and not the book? I lean towards the movie, but I don’t know, not enough context.
That being said, the book was a pretty in your face look at fascism. The movie lost some of it, but I also enjoyed the shit out of the movie.
The movie was straight up a parody of a propaganda film made by the fascist society from the book. It’s a satire meant to make you think about fascist propaganda.
But it was too similar to other action movies that people didn’t get what it was. Which is kinda scary really.
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I think it may not have conveyed what it was trying to do when it was in theaters, but my friends and I (millennials so we saw it as kids) watch it as a ridiculous satire. One of my favourite movies I think. Sadly, I love Hackers, but that is not a satire, they were trying real hard.
I love hackers too, friend. In fact I’ll say I love it because they were trying so hard lol.
Yeah man, like rigor mortis, habeas corpus