It’s not the democratic party, it’s the US itself that is rotten. The dem are just another manifestation of the issue.
If you mean our government, hard agree.
ITT is some progressives who put more time, energy and anger into bullying other progressives not to vote for a genuinely progressive candidate, than they do into trying to sincerely convince Republican voters not to vote Republican.
There’s a logical fallacy at play in their minds where they think “Republican voters aren’t reasonable but progressives are, so I’ll spend my time trying to whip progressives into holding the Party line. Maybe cussing them out and accusing them of being complicit in the rise of fascism will help…”
Better not try then…
The only way the Democratic Party will return to the left is if they start losing votes to the left.
Their only guiding principle is winning elections, and to win elections they chase undecided centrist voters, and to chase the undecided centrist voters they lurch to the right whilst assuming that leftists just owe them their vote.
Lol, if their guiding principles are winning elections they are failures. In my lifetime they’ve handed power over to the most idiotic unhinged people I’ve fortunately have never had to be around, and Ive been around very stupid people.
Either way you are deflecting.
Im just tired of people who the only thing they are good at is giving up constantly feel the psychopathic need to come at me with their bullshit.
Can there be another Whigs party
Liberals are so fiesty these days. Like a crab in steam.
Ship’s sailed. Dems are done. Good riddance.
I wonder if the person celebrating the one party fascist regime is a leftist or a fascist
This is a right-wing troll talking point. Don’t listen to it.
Go to the Democratic primaries and move the party left. And then, no matter who gets the nomination, vote Dem in the general election. This is exactly what the nazis did to move the GOP to the right and it worked great for them, and it’s something we can emulate.
Roosevelt did great things for Americans while still being capitalist. The needle can be moved left without violent revolution.
“Both sides bad” is weak sauce.
Not saying capitalism is the best form, but which economic form is better given human greed and tendency for corruption?
The fact people are greedy is not the reason pure socialism/communism fails, there’s a multitude of reasons it simply doesn’t work well: a lack of market forces upending resource allocation, incentive problems, lack of consumer sovereignty, reduced innovation++
Best system IMO is a fusion model, publically owned industries where it matters (health, education, PT), and private where it doesn’t (goods, foods etc).
We’re not doing capitalism in the US anyway. You can argue it’s state capitalism, but personally I don’t see it. I’d say we’re deep into full on monopolies and oligarchy. If you have enough money and you buy out it otherwise lock out competing business and create vertical integration, the government will subsidize your business, especially your payroll, and if you go bankrupt they will reward you with no taxes for life, or bail out money that you can 90% give yourself personally as a yearly bonus. None of that is capitalism, it doesn’t fit that model. We’re also letting corporations call themselves individuals with rights, which is absurd, and it’s the argument for letting business openly bribe and sponsor politicians, on top of making it also legal to directly pay politicians to vote specific ways, as long as you pay them after the vote happens and not before. None of this fits the capitalist model. Monopolies are supposed to be illegal in capitalist models because it’s known to break the model. Regulations are supposed to stop individual businesses from owning their own supply chain, distribution system, raw materials, manufacturing, all in one company. Because, again, it was always known this would break the model. We aren’t capitalist. We’re in an oligarchy. Might make rights, money is in charge, and there are only rules for the not owner class.
We need to get involved at the primary level, not lament the choices we are left with when primary election turnout is hilariously low. I’d be surprised if the average voter even knows what a primary election is.
I believe this is definitely a place to focus. In my area there isn’t even enough candidates to fill the democratic party primary ballot, people on this platform bitching need to run for office instead of just whining about it (myself included)
While I mostly agree with this, I have one significant hurdle I am unable to overcome. What other choice do I have?
I can’t stand most Democrats. They suck! But they are a far cry better than voting Republican. And voting for a third party feels like wasting my vote.
If there was a third party candidate that focused on climate change and social issues and had even the slightest chance of winning, I would vote for them in a second. Until then, I am stuck voting for the lesser of two evils.
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You are giving consent when you vote. You are saying this choice is fine.
Actually, when you vote, you just vote.
That’s it. It’s not a magic ritual, you don’t telepathically send your message to the Holy Ghost of Democracy when you vote, Anubis isn’t going to weigh your ballot against a feather before deciding on the fate of your soul.
You circle something or you don’t and then you deal with whatever happens however you want.
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I see your point, however, the Democratic party is not fascist. It does provide a clear difference from the GOP. Wether we like it or not, USA is a two party system. We need to be practical here, not ideological, or we just go fascist forever.
“We’re only living under fascism because not enough people voted for the party that did absolutely nothing to stop it”
…you didn’t say fascist…
Maybe you’re not ready to hear this: Both sides are not the same.
I checked my calculator, and according to this “capitalist + imperialist = fascist”. Imagine that.
What a retarded take. Would Kamala try to revoke birth right citizenship? Would Kamala be sueing journalists and media networks for printing stuff she didn’t like? Would Kamala have created a memecoin to allow completely obfuscated political donations? Grow up.
