When the accusation means the death penalty with no trial, nobody is safe
Anyone still deluded into thinking he’s not a dictator yet?
So now he’s trying the Duterte flavor of dictatorship.
SCOTUS has given POTUS (not just Cheeto chimp) immunity. Of course Trump will do whatever he wants.
That raises the question of whether Mr. Trump has legitimate authority to tell the military to summarily kill people it suspects are smuggling drugs — and whether the administration allowed career military lawyers to weigh in.
Eat shit NYT, fuck this sanewashing bullshit. "Raises the question"my ass! He absolutely does not have the authority because the law fucking says so! Why does the media bend over fucking backward to lick their own assholes by acting like these are even questions to be answered‽ They have completely abdicated their duty as journalistic media. “Fourth estate” absolute bullshit capitulation to rogue powers with dictatorial intent.
Because the media is owned by billionaires so they want to push for anything which expands their power and control
Extra judicial killings are bread and butter for US presidents, made really popular by Obama.
This is of course fucked, but there are clear precedents for presidents killing any one, including US citizens, they name a terrorist.
You got it all wrong. Extra judicial killings outside the US are Gucci. Inside the US you’re only allowed judicial killings and obvious ‘suicides’.
Show me where it was allowed to kill George Floyd then…
That was a police force, not the Fed. The Police are allowed to judiciously kill within the US. The Fed is allowed to judiciously kill outside the US.
Sheesh man, learn geography. And sarcasm.
Only you are talking about inside the US.
When have Americans ever given a single fuck about Latin Americans? Except to overthrow their governments when they goddam feel like it. Trump murdered some rando Latinos on a tiny boat with an outboard motor with like, an aircraft carrier, and broadcast it online. Americans literally give absolutely zero fucks if he does illegal shit to them, why would they care if he annihilates brown people.
The US is a rogue fascist country.
Wait, what? I haven’t heard about this.
It was within the last day or two. Near Venezuela. They blew up a boat they claim was smuggling drugs. They didn’t even attempt to board it, just shot a missile and killed seven people.
Rubio and Trump were bragging about it.
Fuck everyone who clapped back at me when I said Bush and Obama’s extrajudicial killings would come back to bite us.
Habeas corpus for all.
Bush and Obama had the legal cover of the original Congressional AUMF from 2001. That has now finally fully expired.
Yeah well Trump has the legal cover of “I can do whatever the fuck I want” immunity which has fully not expired. Worst case they just tell him he can’t kill people like 3 years after he killed a bunch of people and he just says “no.”
I feel like the administration is going to have any legal backing, it will probably center on the rights of stateless vessels. Does the President have the right to use lethal force against pirates in international waters?
The US has universal jurisdiction to prosecute pirates and to seize their vessels. Seize does not mean “sink.”
As far as I know, they don’t have a lot of facts in this case to spin into a “the bad guys escalated a law enforcement boarding operation” scenario.
While sieze doesn’t mean sink explicitly, the argument is going to go to what acceptable force can be used against a stateless vessel not complying with an order to be boarded for inspection.
It is also international waters, not American soil. Legal protections in international waters are likely smaller than legal protections on American soil due to how international diplomacy created the law of the sea.
The fact that so much shit has happened and it’s still the early days of the 2nd Trump administration is depressing.
Can you believe it hasn’t even been 8 months since he was sworn in
Were you not here for the first one?
There were railgaurds and they were mostly political novices the first time
As opposed to now?
It’s so much worse this time, and if you can’t see that then you’re not paying attention.
Not really sure what railgaurds we have left now.
Don’t worry, we’ve tied the American people to the tracks so plowing through them should at least slow it down.
Americans have tied themselves to the tracks and are continually tightening the knots.
Meanwhile, happy red-staters point and laugh at the liberal wokies who didn’t shell out for the commemorative gold plated track ropes with Trump’s autopenned signature, proudly made in the city of USA , China.
Just how many kids did he rape??? Now he’s KILLING PEOPLE in order to detract from the Epstein files!
I think you forgot that Trump just likes killing people, regardless of the Epstein files.
Bill Barr literally had to dangle death row inmates he could put to death in front of Trump like keys for a baby to get him to focus on certain things. Literally having to bribe him with murdering people to get him to pay attention.
Trump would be doing this anyway, don’t give him weak excuses like he’s trying to cover something up. He is a fucking monstrous person plain and simple.
Some idiot in Houston decided he had a right to summarily execute a child for playing a harmless prank
Yeah but he’ll most likely go to jail for murder. Call me crazy but I don’t think that will happen here.
You know, another country’s leader thought that they had the right to summarily kill drug smugglers. He’s currently in prison in The Hague awaiting trial for crimes against humanity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_of_Rodrigo_Duterte
The US has credibly threatened to invade the Hague should any member of their armed forces be made to stand trial there. Ignoring them is a long long standing US tradition.
I think we’d make an exception for Trump…
Does drug smuggling usually result in a death penalty if convicted? If not, then it shouldn’t warrant execution without trial
Even if it did, the trial bit is pretty important.
I’m not aware of the US imposing the death penalty for smuggling.
we are all drug smugglers
America, not Trump.
Wear it.
No?? I didn’t vote for this shit
United States of America, this is America
No, that’s “The Americas.” In English, it’s widely understood that “America” on its own is referring to the USA.
Uh, I’m not certain that’s true.
An American person is from the United States of America, sure.
If someone said “I met this guy from America” I would genuinely wonder whether they wanted me to assume that the guy was from the USA or if they were about to clarify.
In English speaking countries, when you refer to anything from “The Americas”, there’s a likelihood it’s from the United States of America, and one might assume that, but it’s something less than “widely understood” abbreviation.
Oh and here we are, thinking everyone on earth speaks English. How American of you!
/s
We’re on a US politics discussion forum.
Will he pay royalties to Duterte?
So he wants the ability to kill suspects. Can I want the ability to have him killed?
He literally already did it.
No shit, stop fighting your own.
