• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The US has always been fascist, since Manifest Destiny up to and after WWII. Fascism is just now turning inward towards the people who never thought they’d see this end of the stick.

    Still, despite all the hatred and forces pushing us apart and pinning us down, this is our opportunity to restructure the country and make reparations to those we’ve wronged.

    Have radical optimism in the face of radical hatred.

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    And when that canary croaks, it’ll be another. And another and another, so long as we don’t have to get up off our asses and stamp out these evil fuckers and undo their shit

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      He was fired because that was the plan when Colbert was fired. They literally said he was next.

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        Okay but why in that way - during the taping of a show? That doesn’t seem very “planned”. That seems like a desperate rush.

        Over the weekend would have been smoother. Hell, just about any other way would have been smoother.

        They gave Colbert another year.

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          Someone in the administration (not Trump obviously) is smart enough to know to strike while the iron is hot. Use the Charlie Kirk killing to justify all kinds of shit that they want to do anyway while they have an angry army of supporters to shout down anyone who dares to speak up against their actions.

          They were always going to declare antifa a “terrorist organization.” They were always going to come after Kimmel. They were always going to put democrats on lists to be investigated. The MAGA anger over Kirk’s killing just gave them the opportunity to speed up the timeline and they couldn’t let it go to waste.

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          Colbert getting canned was a test. They saw they could get away with it, so now gloves are off and off Kimmel goes in one night.

          Everything they do is a test to see if they can get away with something. If they do, they ratchet up to the next horrendous idea.

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            I don’t doubt they wanted to gauge reactions. I doubt ABC was part of that in any way.

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              Whether they were or weren’t, they didn’t try to stand up and say no. That’s all the information I need.

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    another “let’s set some arbitrary line down the road to avoid doing anything today”

    you already live under a fascist regime you cowards… DO SOMTHING! take action NOW

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      You decide to take action. Please roll for initiative.

      rolls 1

      You slip and fall on banana peel. You ran out of action points.

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        What a strange mix of RPG tropes. I get what you meant but that’s like when you see “hacking” on tv.

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          I’ll be honest. I never played DND and only know it from memes. I was trying to make a funny. 😔

          Edit: the rpg part probably stems from Baldur Gate 3. 🤷‍♂️

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            Heh, that would’ve been my guess. Nothing to be embarrassed about! Your joke worked. It was just weird to see all those concepts put together in a way they wouldn’t go in an actual game. (DND doesn’t have action points, for starters)

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                Not in the sense people usually use the phrase “action points”.

                In D&D, on your turn, you get one action. That might be hitting someone with a sword, casting a spell, or whatever. You can also move, but that’s not typically an “action”. Some classes also get what are confusingly called “bonus actions”, which are extra things you can do on your turn. Rogues, for example, can try to hide as a bonus action even after they did a normal action like shoot someone. A regular fighter who shot someone with a bow wouldn’t be allowed to try to hide on the same turn, but the rogue could.

                Because you only get one action (and bonus actions), no one calls them action points. You might say “you already took your action” or something.

                Compare with a game like the original Fallout. You get a number of action points based on your stats. For an average character, it’s 7. Shooting someone typically takes 2, a called shot takes 3. I think movement also takes action points. So on your turn you might shoot someone 3 times (six action points) and move a little (1 action point). Or take a called shot (3 AP) and move a lot (4 AP). Lots of options. Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 also use action points in a similar way.

                This is way more explanation than you probably needed. The key thing is on D&D you typically do one thing on your turn (eg: attack, cast a spell). Pretty much every action has the same “cost” in this sense. You can’t really mix and match, and there’s not as much tactical depth on your turn. (Pathfinder 2e gives you three actions per turn, but I don’t think anyone calls them points there, either.)

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                  Pathfinder 2e gives you three actions per turn, but I don’t think anyone calls them points there, either

                  Yeah, they’re just actions. Though the original joke kinda works, because the way Pathfinder frames it is that you gain actions at the start of your turn, so it’s more conceivable that something could prevent you from gaining those actions, or could take them away. (Indeed, the “Slowed” condition says that you “When you regain your actions, reduce the number of actions regained by your slowed value”, as a similar example.) Even though they’re not called points, they do kinda act like that kind of a resource.

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                Yes but not in that way.

                Initiative determines the order of action. Usually in combat, but it could theoretically be applied elsewhere, a debate for example, or if a Bard challenges someone to a rap-battle (I guess those are both kinda just verbal combat though).

                Action points are how many actions you can perform per turn of initiative. Usually a movement, an action, and possibly a bonus action.

                Slipping on a banana peel could be done if you rolled acrobatics to leap over the banana peel but failed the skill check. Say you’re a Gnome whose lost their legs, taking a -6 modifier to Dexterity. This could cause an acrobatics roll of 12 to fall to 6, which could below the 7 you might contextually need to succeed at leaving over the banana peel.

                “Using your powerful gnome arms you make a mad gorilla dash and leap with all your might, Unfortunately the loose dirt under your right hand gives way and you slip. You manage to catch yourself with your left hand, but before the squelch of the banana peel registers to your ear your arm slips out from under you and you strike your head upon the ground”
                Take 1 Damage and Roll a Con save to see if you’re concussed.

                Edit: I brainfarted and described a potential DnD or PF situation, this cannot occur in BG

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          I’ve never played DND. I’ve only know it through memes. 😔 I tried to put the gist of what I understood.

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          Do you crit-fail your players on ANYTHING? I can’t imagine the dm ideas for how one in twenty swings should send your sword flying into the ether.

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            I crit fail my players on skill checks if they have a negative with modifiers.

            “Oh you rolled a -1 on your lockpicking roll? Sorry bucko, you broke your pick off deep in the lock because what you thought was a false set was your tensioner slipping”

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              Pathfinder’s four degrees of success system is so good here. A crit is any time you beat the DC by 10. A crit fail is any time you get 10 less than the DC. The system itself then tells you on a bunch of different spells/actions/effects what happens on a crit/success/fail/crit fail. It’s handy because often this means a regular fail can still mean something good happens for you. In the case of lockpicking:

              Critical Success You unlock the lock, or you achieve two successes toward opening a lock that requires more than one success. You leave no trace of your tampering.
              Success You open the lock, or you achieve one success toward opening a lock that requires more than one success. You leave behind damage that indicates the lock was picked on close scrutiny.
              Critical Failure You break your toolkit and leave behind obvious damage. Fixing a broken toolkit requires using Crafting to Repair it or else swapping in replacement picks (costing 3 sp, or 3 gp for an infiltrator thieves’ toolkit).

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        Long lasting general strikes and boycots would be an effective tool. I realize they would be painful, or even impossible, for people to support themselves through in many cases, whuch is why things like mutual aid and strike funds need to be set up first.

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          If the film/tv industry did this alone everything would collapse pretty fast. Cut off everyone’s entertainment and they’ll get pissed real fast.

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            You mean like when there was a writer’s strike and basically nothing happened and basically nothing changed?

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            They’re using ‘Bread and circuses’ to pacify, so remove the circuses and watch the anger boil up.

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              They’re doing a job of removing the bread already - huge benefit cuts from the most vulnerable among us

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            You do have a point, media helps keep the cattle calm and distracted…

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        A couple of days ago someone brought the right tools to the debate😉

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          That really changed things didnt it. Except no… It didnt.

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            i don’t know, i feel much better, and those in power now hire more security and canceled plans, which is a good indication they are scared. also talk of assassination is getting normalized. the tone has defenatly changed

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          One of them dies and the rest of us are dealing with the consequences.
          .
          Look up ‘pyrrhic victory.’

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        Protests, Marches, call for General Strike, Civil Disobedience, etc etc etc

        Trumptard may not care about your opinion but he would have to care if the country stops working…

        And yes, I know it’s hard… but this is what you get after decades of apathy and “fuck you, got mine”… you don’t like it? you are certainly going to hate living the rest of your life under fascism

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        I want the rest of the world to commit to a defensive pact against the USA. “If either of us is attacked by the USA, we will both go to war with them”. I want a pan-continental alliance. Let’s get Europe, China, Russia, South America, Oceania, and the Middle East in this. Mexico and Canada can join too. And I’m not saying I agree with Hamas, but they do have a lot of experience against American military hardware, and the enemy of the USA is my friend.

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          I’m sure that the same folks who couldn’t get Harris elected will be able to create an international pact more powerful than the UN.

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      Ehh naw we just need to let it reset. The house of cards will crumble as soon as Trump croaks, then once ceaser is gone Rome will burn. Hopefully what comes after is better, but it probably won’t.

      Personally, my family came to this foreign land, that’s not ours, to seek out a better economic life and freedom. 2024 was the first election that the youngest voting generation went more conservative in the last 100 years. The beliefs of this nation no longer align with my own, so I’m returning back to Europe where my family once came in search of those very values. I realize a lot isn’t great there either, but I have more trust in the EU protecting my fundamental rights than I do the US Constitution.

      Failing that, at least Europe has better wine and I’ll just enjoy the view while the world ends.

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        ^ this is the epitome of the “fuck you, got mine” mentality… you seem to think you have an out so every body else can go fuck themselves… you are not even going to try to spare most of the worst of it, you are happy to let everyone suffer because you think you have an out

        Good luck EU if this is what they are getting from the USA

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        The time to do something was back a few decades ago… back in November there was a good chance to buy some time… now it’s all uphill but it will only get harder the more you guys keep on “waiting for it”

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          There’s no waiting going on tbh. This is like a group project in college, there is no intent to do anything but hope others will resolve things for you.

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            Yeap… but nobody is coming to save anyone

            And here is the problem… nothing that Trump is doing could possibly end in a better situation for the USA, so when the shit hits the fan and the inevitable depression hits, the USA will do the only thing it knows how to do (specially under Conservatives): they will blame some other country and go to war with it and this time, hitting Yemen won’t do it

            Right now I am basically only hoping WWIII is not fought with nukes… that’s my best 10 year scenario

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      People cant do anything. What actions will change things?

      You can demonstrate until you die of old age and nothing has been accomplished.

      I think the only actual change people can do is try and collect money to live somewhere else. I dont believe in talking and convincing people. I believe in direct action in your own life.

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        People cant do anything. What actions will change things?

        Well Charlie Kirk has been awfully quiet and not bussing around insurrectionists to the Capitol recently. Wonder what happened there?

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          It didnt create meaningful change. A person was killed. The opinions of his fans are only stronger now. So what did it accomplish, really.

          Also, the moment people split into two sides and wont listen to eachother, and starts fighting eachother, you have the setup needed for much more meaningless violence. This is where America is now. Because you have been manipulated into it.

          You can watch this video that actually explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azE7nqqQMmo

          Please actually watch it. This is 100% what is happening.

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            Oh nah, I moved away a long time ago because I saw what would happen over a decade ago.

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        The country relies on cars for everything. If you block some roads, you can halt the whole economy.

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            Your mindset is why this is happening. Their propaganda has worked on you.

            Either go to protests, do something more dangerous, or shut the fuck up

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        I believe in direct action in your own life.

        No wonder why the “fuck you, got mine” attitude got you here.

        PS: there isn’t really anywhere in the world that is craving to take Muricans right now… specially not ones that are not rich enough to already have an out (this sucks but money talks)…

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          No not fuck you, got mine.

          Just not going to try and convince anyone before taking action in my own life. I think its a much better strategy if you actually want change.

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            well I am not American so my actions are not the same as yours…

            In Spanish they have this saying “cada ladron juzga por su condicion”… which applies here. It basically means “a thief thinks everyone else is also thieving”… it says a lot more about you that your default assumption is that I do nothing even if I am calling for action

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              I didnt actually write or say that you do nothing. I asked you what actions you think would work.

              Its because I have pretty much thought about all of this before. No action that I can come up with will lead to any change. But maybe you have better ideas.

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                Fair, but what you wrote is kind of worse… you basically assumed nobody can do anything about this

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                  Yeah I dont think anyone can.

                  Maybe someone proves me wrong.

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    i’ve noticed something not so funny about when facism gets called out in the mainstream; out loudly enough to be heard. Seemingly, its usually only when it starts to inconvenience cishet ablebodied white people.

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    Most disappointing line in the sand ever.

    Ten years ago was the time to flip out about fascism. I can’t believe some people are still telling us “wait for it…!”

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      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the best time to flip out about fascism is ten years ago. Second best time is today.

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        This is what we need to hear. Not condescension for inaction, but a call to continuously move forward with protest, unification, and unwaveringly loud "fuck you"s to the administration that’s trying to kill us.

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        Oh! Hah, I completely overlooked the timestamp. I never did twitter or bsky, micro blogging feels as opaque and pointless to me as Discord does to …well, most people.

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      We deserved better. We deserved bernie. I blame hillary clintons ambition and the dnc at the time for trying to force her through. Bernie would have beaten trump the first time.

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        If you’re trying to split the difference between finding a specific contemporary individual to blame versus blaming an inherently flawed democracy that contains the seeds of its own destruction, you could do worse than the DNC top brass of the last decade.

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        Government full of actual Nazis. Clearance Thomas fireselling Supreme Court decisions. Blame Hillary Clinton.

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        Not weak, just early. Hitler didn’t start with the Holocaust or even the Enabling act; he had a Reichstag majority starting July 1932. MAGA will follow in the Nazis’ footsteps; they’ll just take a little longer to do it.

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          He’s definitely also weak, he flip flops on every move. They would be further along if they weren’t handcuffed to a senile narcissist with one foot in the grave. OTOH they have only gotten this far riding his cult of personality, once he kicks it I have a feeling the whole party will collapse into infighting and not get anything done.

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    Dude, your “canary” is decomposing at the bottom of a gas-flooded mine. That ship sailed months ago.

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    my retirement plan was dying in the water wars already, I guess the timetable has been moved forward ralsei-doobie

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    There is only one thing we can do.

    Make it about Epstein 24/7. Write his name on the walls and shout it in the streets.

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          Trump supporters don’t care that he is a pedo or fascist. The only folk who can be influenced are the non-voting undecideds. Getting folk out to vote is the only way we have a chance out of this. That’s why the MAGATs are trying to reduce voting participation. They know that is their Achilles heel. If more people vote, they lose, and they know it.

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            Yeah it’s all a smokescreen. They’ll just shrug it off for their dear leader like everything else. Anyone left supporting Trump are traitors and already quadruple doubled down on his lies and are not the type to admit they’re wrong. It’s just the latest carrot for the Dems to chase while he robs our country.

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        To be fair, even fucking Margorine Tator Tot Green is pissed about him hiding the Epstein files. I think you underestimate how badly core MAGA want it released. It really could be the thing that takes all this down.