• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    2 days ago

    That’s exactly the point: we’ll probably never really know how much the CIA “helped”.

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      So it could be that they didn’t help much at all, and there isn’t anything to be upset about?

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          But you just said you don’t know if this was done by CIA, if CIA helped in the coup the people were doing or if they had no effect at all.

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                The original statement was:

                If the CIA helped that’s fine, people like that should not be in power.

                I took issue with that stance. It doesn’t matter whether or not Euromaidan was a coup to do that.

                Condoning CIA coups if “the people” wanted it basically gives the CIA carte blanche to coup whoever they want, as long as they manufacture consent enough.

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                  You talked about a coup by the CIA. They’re talking about CIA helping. Two different things. Like you said, we don’t know the extent of their involvement

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                    So it’s also ok to condone the FBI murdering people if we don’t know that the FBI killed MLK?