• Tomtits@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    Plot twist: They were both single, consenting adults at the time.

    (I’m on about OP’s mam and the boss for those that need literally everything explained to them.)

  • ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Monica Lewinsky wasn’t “sleeping with her boss” she was manipulated into performing sexual favors by her boss, the most powerful man on earth at the time. This is victim blaming.

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      1 day ago

      This is a bullshit take that Monika Lewinsky denies even now

      This was a mutual relationship, mutual on all levels, right from the way it started and all the way through.

      If you can make a criticism it’s that Clinton blamed the whole thing on her being a seductive harlot including in his book after the presidency. But you certainly can’t just decide she’s a victim in a sexual relationship because you feel like it’s true, that’s the opposite of believe women and you’re undermining her agency

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

      • ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip
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        1 day ago

        Your bullshit take is not supported by that Wikipedia article. The power imbalance in their relationship was absolutely massive and she faced severe consequences to her life which Clinton avoided. The relationship itself may not have victimized her to the extent that I had thought, but the aftermath certainly did.

        • aln@lemmy.world
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          24 hours ago

          Monica had an affair with an older man before Clinton. She had a 5 year long affair with her high school drama teacher after she graduated high school. That man was married at the time.

          Was there a power imbalance? Is Clinton a sex creep who routinely cheats? Yes to both of those.

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            20 hours ago

            Sounds more like someone was groomed to accept inappropriate advances from older men in positions of power.

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            23 hours ago

            Fair enough. I don’t think my take was ever “bullshit” but it certainly is more well rounded now.

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      1 day ago

      I met her once. I didn’t even recognise her until I had to ask for ID (American tourists never sign their credit cards). And then I was like, oh. It’s Monica Lewinsky.

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            19 minutes ago

            If that was actually the case it would help prevent fraud to leave it unsigned because it would be two-factor auth.

            But in reality ive never been IDd for not having it signed.

        • TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
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          13 hours ago

          In the UK it’s a thing. Especially if you don’t have chip and pin. If you don’t have a signature, we don’t take payment unless you have photo ID with the same name. We’re not paid enough to risk a jail sentence for putting through a stolen card.

          • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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            24 hours ago

            I have never in my life needed to use a credit card signature as verification

            • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              20 hours ago

              There are places that ask for it, and it was common before also, at least in the US. Are you perhaps on the younger side, or haven’t been much in the US about…m 10 to 15 years ago? That’s when I had the most signature confirming type stuff, with some places not accepting a card that wasn’t signed (usually smaller shops that didn’t have a customer facing POS device, or offline CC stuff, which occasionally happened at places like Cons).