Not vegan, but hate the idea that they’re made fun of for trying to spread awareness. I’m not including the militant vegans here. They do more damage than they fix.
I’m sure some people do it from a high horse but vegans are far from the only type of people that do that. And the message is absolutely important, besides the cruelty part, eating animals is a huge part of the climate change problem.
it’s not because they are trying to spread awareness. now obviously not all blah blah blah., but they have a tendency to be highly sanctimonious and abrasive, they accept no partial measures and treat it like like a cult would in the eve of the coolaid tasting party.
kind hard to see their point of view in the other end of a carnist label spat at you.
All she did was prove sherpas aren’t weak.
Man this comment section is a dumpster fire
Ain’t it great?
I used to own an ice cream shop, and we had vegan ice cream, and a pretty good following for it. I got so I could recognize them as they were walking from their car.
One quiet day, I saw this older couple start getting out of their car, and I said to my assistant “They’re vegan.” She asked how I knew, and I said “Just look at them, they’re obviously vegan.” She said “But they’re so old.” “You’ll see,” I said.
They walked in, and the first thing the old guy said was “We hear you have vegan ice cream, we’re vegans!” and I could sense my assistant’s head swivel to look at me in my peripheral vision.
As I made his ice cream, he went on to tell me how his wife makes vegan steaks so good, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Yes, I could.
The secret is adding beef to the vegan steak.
Cool, I’ll take mine minus the vegan.
Yeah, these vegans are pussies.
I remember seeing this guy somewhere, I wanna say strongman competition? Care to give me a name? Iirc he seemed pretty chill
Patrik Baboumian, german strong man.
IIRC he’s a world champion, but I can’t remember exactly at what. I want to say there was an arm wrestling champion that was also vegan.
There is no way they were the first vegans in 2016. There have been 100+ ascents per year for decades, should have been around 6000 in total as of 2016.
Considering the mountain is in a part of the world where significant parts of the population are de-facto vegans without identifying as such, I highly doubt that no one among the 6k people before them was living on a plant based diet
There is no way they were the first vegans in 2016. There have been 100+ ascents per year
After her death a vegan among them would have spoken out. Could be that they all tried Yak butter and can’t claim the title anymore.
Yeah and like half of the climbers I know are vegan or at least vegetarian. There is a huge overlap in those groups.
Also the Sherpas serve oatmeal to the climbers anyways
Half of India is vegan
Vegetarian. They put butter in everything.
Ghee, specifically. Although there are plenty of vegan substitutes
can you support this?
Their statement is probably incorrect. This says that 39% of India’s population is “vegetarian” (with the definition left to the respondent): https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/
I see claims that 9% of the population is vegan, but can’t find the source of that figure (on brief examination).
Four in ten people in India follow either a vegetarian or a vegan diet, according to data by a Statista Consumer Insights survey. In all other countries polled, the figure is far lower, ranging between just five percent in Mexico and 11 percent in South Africa. In the United States, six percent of respondents said that they were vegetarian and four percent said that they were vegan.
They all died.
bro vegans are so dumb they’re depriving themselves of key nutrients and become weak and constantly tired.
that’s wrong, let me prove it to you by climbing the fucking everest
bro vegans are so annoying and why won’t they shut the fuck up about it
the carnist intellectuals have come out in force I see
Well. She did shut the fuck up about it.
Kindest carnist
Only kind of. I am all for veganism if I could afford it. Plus I am more impressed with thr sherpas making this their nob in spite of the obnoxious tourists.
The sherpas don’t have that much choice what with needing money to survive and the nepalese economy being what it is.
It’s crazy how mad people get every time a Vegan exists
It really challenges a certain type of persons ego. I don’t really get it.
weirdly defensive too, your conscience nagging again bud 🤔
The problem are not the vegans. The problem is that those people have to tell everyone that the are vegans and try to “sell” to others. Just be a vegan and don’t bother other people with it.
people have to tell everyone that the are vegans
I never see these people IRL.
But they must be deeply traumatizing, because I see people who complain about them everywhere.
Vocal minority explains it.
Then you are lucky.
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first interaction by account 🤨Don’t have to really, our existence is already deeply upsetting lol. But even if, how are you going to change society if you keep it to yourself
For every one person who tells me they’re vegan about 10 brag they’re not
People are proud of who they are, I guess.
I think her dying trying is an important part of the point here.
I don’t agree with it. I’m sure there’s a more nuanced cause of death, but that’s between step 2 and 3.
Right I went with the most charitable reading.
lol stupid vegan dies because we were right about veganism causing malnutrition get owned
is of course the interpretation that seems the most obvious
Vegans call themselves vegans and they get to call others “carnists”? I’ve been hearing them calling others “meateaters” too. It’s so reductive of people who don’t agree with their ideas.
Huh? What would you call someone who cares about animal exploitation, and what should we call those that don’t?
I don’t go over my day calling people names. It’s not hard for me to call them as they want them to be called, and if I don’t know that, they are just people like me.
Carnist is a description of someone who has a meat-inclusive diet, other descriptions of people by what they can or cannot eat are e.g. vegan, lactose intolerant, celiac… It’s not a “name” you call someone, it’s a description of someone using a certain aspect of them relevant to the discussion.
A “name”, as in, something used to insult would be e.g. corpsemuncher, bloodmouth, cheesebreth &c.
It’s used as a pejorative. It’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
I mean in the same way as “terf” I guess
So, some nonvegan people?
Edit: Also, that wasn’t the point. Vegans call themselves vegans, nobody is asking them to call others by any name, proper or improper, in vegans’ point of view.
The point behind not using “nonvegan” is that it frames carnists as "the normal"s and the “vegans” as the one who have “something special” going on. This is true with celiac and nonceliac, lactose intolerant and not lactose intolerant. But we argue that veganism, i.e. not killing if unnecessary, is the normal thing to do. That the only reason it doesn’t seem that way is because it got normalized through repetition and how widespread it is.
Nobody is asking to stop the torture of dairy cows &c. other than vegans either so I don’t understand why you think the point in your edit matters.The point in demonstrating for societal change is precisely doing stuff others aren’t asking for.
I guess a vegan would see the point in that. Vegans are normal in my book, as in they are people. If they didn’t call themselves vegans, I wouldn’t call them any particular way as a noun. If I needed to describe them, I’d say, “they are people who only eat vegetables”.
I get it, though, it’s a discourse battle derived from their moral views and expected ethics. It’s just they don’t come across as very approachable.
another user said it’s like how christians call non-believers sinners. that makes sense to me.
The actual term is secular. The ones using sinner are the vegans of the Christian world.
So you’re saying the ones who call nonchristians “sinners” are correct?
Most people are apathetic, and a chunk of those are due to ignorance. Calling them carnists likely isn’t helping the cause at all.
This is a shotpost community. I’m not entirely sure I understand your surprise.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here, you don’t want me to take this “so serious” everyone here is just pretending to be a stereotypical carnist? I’m not surprised at all, why would I be, it’s like this every time a vegan is mentioned.
I’m not sure either. If it’s everyone, maybe the vegan is the issue. 🤷
Huh? What vegan is causing everyone here to act like a stereotype? The one who climbed everest, or one of the vegans who started commenting after all these carnists had made all the canon jokes already
This seems like the data from McDonalds Lobby coorperations.
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Eww, sourced from rooshvforum.com
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No matter my diet, I’m not so sure I’d survive that either. Anyone who’s been up there and found it easy can have a laugh though
If this is the same story I’m thinking of, she and her partner wanted to be the first vegans to climb to the top, to show the world that vegans can do it. Coincidentally, another vegan actually did it like 1-2 days before their attempt.
Ah, I sincerely hope someone told her during her last dying breaths that she wasn’t the first vegan to climb Mount-Whatever and therefore she didn’t actually need to do it.
I sincerely hope that you won’t get the same amount of cruelty in live that you wish upon others in death.
Please eat some makeup.
You seem ugly on the inside.
Downvotes pair delightfully with the actual negative karma your post is generating for your spirit. Grow the fuck up.
that joke is 1000 more annoying then vegans atp
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Thank you, and the ‘why’ reply makes it more special
Stop using acronyms… at least establish the acronym first. If your comment is too short to establish the acronym, don’t bother using it.
IT’S CC
(common courtesy)
why
I have repurposed it for Trump supporters, who ABSOLUTELY NEVER shut the fuck up about being Trump supporters and also are a genuine menace to others where vegans really are not.
I’m my experience it’s about a ten to one ratio of people who shit on vegans because they “never shut up about it” vs vegans who actually never shut up about it. So a vegan wanted to show she could climb Mt Everest. She did it, then she died of acute altitude sickness during the descent, something completely unrelated to her diet. Her husband, also vegan, lived. She became one of hundreds of people who have died in that climb, all of whom wanted to prove they could do it. Just let people live their life how they want to. Heaping scorn on someone who died trying to prove themselves isn’t cool.
I’m my experience it’s about a ten to one ratio of people who shit on vegans because they “never shut up about it” vs vegans who actually never shut up about it.
A true testament to how many people they annoy.
Just let people live their life how they want to
I’d rather have them not climb the damn mountain though. It’s become a sort of tourist trap -thing (literally), there’s people selling commercial climbings and all. It’s extremely wasteful and them littering the place with all their trash (like extra oxygen tanks) and then with their corpses is disgusting and kind of insulting considering Sagarmatha has some religious significance to locals as well
It’s like right wingers always claiming that gay /trans people are “shoving it down their throat” because they make TV shows for gay people.
Like for one, no they aren’t. And two, that’s interesting phrasing you’ve chosen.
I’m a vegan and I am annoying about it. Like, I’d hope if you sincerely believe in some cause you will be outspoken about it
