• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Ah, and there it is.

    Just kinda sorta kicking the brutal mistreatment of Uyghurs, Tibetans, or Tienamen under the rug conveniently, I see, eh? Do you enjoy the attempted imperial conquest of Taiwan China is obviously partaking in? What are labor conditions like there? How do you like those child sweat shops? Do you like that China gets to censor images like Xi as Winnie the Pooh? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised one who endorses authoritarianism over democratic principles, though. Not exactly free and transparent journalism there when anyone who opposes the CCP get disappeared conveniently, now is it? And how do you like that China is actively funneling weapons and mercenaries to Russia to use in imperial conquest and murder of women and children in Ukraine? Tell me, who are you sincerely believing in acknowledging the number of prison people per capita than the US, and what are the comparative living conditions of those prisons compared to the USA? As China goes full-steam on industrialization and capitalism, their pollution rates are significantly worse than USA as well in terms of concerns for climate change.

    Also I noticed you dodged the entire rest of my comment, so please acknowledge this fact: Trump already killed more children than Obama and Biden combined over 12 years with his cuts to USAID, WHO, and Paris Climate Accords alone, leaving aside the 40% excess covid deaths peer reviewed scientific studies indicate from his disastrous covid pandemic response but keep telling yourself this false equivalence lie.

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      18 hours ago

      Parroting western propaganda that has been debunked thoroughly isn’t the gotcha that you think it is. What does the United Nations say about the treatment of the Uyghurs? Surely there must be some evidence other than Adrian zenz’ testimony?

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          2 days ago

          Your comment made the comparison between China and the United States bud. It’s not whataboutism just because I’m challenging you on it. You opened it up for discussion. 🤷‍♂️

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            2 days ago

            Actually that’s incorrect. If you go back far enough, you’ll find I was primarily comparing Biden and Obama to Trump. Then you hyper-fixated strangely on my second brief question regarding your opinion of Xi and Putin, which was a bait that you fell for. Thank you for that.

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              🙄

              It’s shocking to me how much ego liberals have while getting absolutely spanked by Trump and MAGA.

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                This fantasy liberal sure would be upset if he wasn’t a straw-man you were attacking. 🙄🙄🙄

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      Don’t mention the Uyghurs around tankies. At least if you want to keep your sanity and/or believe in the inherent goodness of people.

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        You know what rattles my belief in humanity? Supposed leftists regurgitating capitalist propaganda because they are afraid of being labeled a “genocide-denier” without even doing the research to see if the claim that there is no genocide in Xinjiang holds any water.

        If you agree that capitalism is bad and that capitalist media exists to uphold the status quo, why do you just blindly trust the capitalists when they say there is a genocide? Especially when they deny the genocide in Gaza that is literally being televised every day. Obviously capitalist media cannot be relied upon for the truth.

        Anyway, here’s some reading if you want to break out of the capitalist media bubble and start thinking for yourself: https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

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        It amuses me that your comment was down-voted automatically in literally less than 30 seconds of posting, which means there are actual bot farms on here down-voting the mere mention thereof. I only noticed because I happened to refresh and see the notification that you replied to me.

        Though sadly yeah, I know what you say is true.

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                The general thought when I’ve seen this brought up in the past is that the default upvote represents your own willingness to stand by and approve what you say; kind of like the adage, “If you won’t stand up for yourself, who else will?” Not that I mind either way but I’m curious why you take extra energy and time to do so.

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      Keeping all the liberL bullshit you vommited about PRC aside (I dont like the PRC for being revisionist)

      Killing children is not a contest that makes biden and obama accepatable, hope that helps and lessens your bloodthirst

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        Keep attacking strawman while purporting a false equivalence fallacy. Golly how I dream to live in your utopian fantasy-land of purity tests.

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          not killing children is not utopian or purity testing, its question of basic humanity. The GOP and democrats differ almost on nothing except the cutlure war.

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            I’m in agreement but tell that to the dead Children of Ukraine, whose weapons supplies and troops used by Russia originate from China, buddy.

            Democrats harm less children than GOP. I already proved that without any refutation whatsoever. Harming fewer children = better.

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        Not even lib but nice try, little buddy lol. Your pretentious ad hominem (But thank you tankie for opening the door) deflections precede your actual knowledge and understanding.

        For all our sake, I hope you’re just young (say, below 22-years-old?) and naive. Lay off the twitch chat and venture out in the world.

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          Wait so you’re a non liberal that regurgitates lib talking points? You don’t even know what an ad hominem is, obviously, so I guess I’d say your lashing out “precedes your actual knowledge and understanding.”

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            Wait so you’re a non liberal that regurgitates lib talking points irrefutable facts?

            FTFY. Easily-caught Circular Reasoning Fallacy. Be better, kiddo!

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              Yeah baby, irrefutable facts that China is imperialist with their… not invading even land they consider their own [Taiwan] for 50 years. Very strong imperialist tendencies there.

              You can learn more about their oppression of their people here

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                It’s not imperialism if China does it.

                Okay, baby.

                Funny, I hear the same arguments of “their own land” Israel claims over Palestine if you go back far enough to the Semitic speaking Canaanites, or to the Balfour Declaration – not that I agree with this, but to point out your own hypocrisy – I bet you’ll claim that’s different.