I mean the system does need to be burned down. You can’t fix a machine that’s doing exactly what it was designed to do. You tear it down, maybe repurpose some of the parts, and build a different machine that doesn’t do what the previous one did.
Despite how relatively rough it is now it’s not anywhere near as bad as it was in the “golden age” of the 50’s or any of the times monarchs have lost their heads. If the “burn it down” crowd can’t work with others then they’re not the people you want building a new nation.
I work with others just fine. I do several different community volunteer projects every weekend, educate anyone willing to listen on how fucked everything is and how supporting any part of the uniparty will only continue to make things worse, join book clubs run by socialists, and help spread the word of actually good candidates at every level of government that run on third party platforms. This is how you begin the work to destroy and repurpose the machine.
I’m glad you’re able to do those things. A lot of people talk the talk online without actually living it offline.
That being said, I think “the uniparty” is just another way of saying “both sides bad,” a phrase uttered by right-wingers and right-wingers who fancy themselves fence-sitters while exclusively attacking left-wing candidates.
It’s a term that sanitizes apalling right-wing behavior while downplaying the work of progressives who take beatings, from “friend” and foe, while trying to accomplish anything that actually helps people.
I’ve no doubt that I just angered a few tankies by even calling members of “the uniparty” progressives, but as I said they’ll call them “genocidal imperialist capitalists” regardless.
I call them that because I’ve seen them time and again compromise with right wingers and many of them side with them on bills they didn’t even need the votes for. Even the “progressive” stuff they try to put forward isn’t progressive. People love to praise Obama’s ACA forgetting it was Romney’s health care act. People call Biden “one of the most progressive presidents we’ve ever had” forgetting that he gave massive amounts of funding to ICE and made lives harder for marginalized groups on his way out (I won’t bring up Gaza cause that’s just a given). He went on about raising the minimum wage…over the course of several years after he would be out of office anyway and not to any amount that would actually help people.
I don’t care if this comes off as “making perfect the enemy of good”. I care about standing up for what I believe in and so far the only candidates that run on what I believe in are third party candidates which is why I spend time helping them and voting for them. I live in a state that’s been deep red since the 90s and has only gotten more and more red with every election both big and small, so helping a party that makes friends with right wingers is pointless to me.
What’s the difference in foreign policy between the GOP and the Dems? All we see from outside the empire is fascism and bombs, regardless of who’s in charge.
Because for me personally I enjoy living with the benefits of the various progressive eras that enable me to do things like buy meat that wasn’t sitting on the floor being eaten by rats and coughed on by a worker with tuberculosis.
Give it another few hundred years and we’ll look back at practices from 2026 that seem equally appalling.
The system that killed a hundred million Native Americans, did hundreds of years of African slavery, initiated countless illegal wars of aggression which resulted in tens of millions of civilian deaths, and is now actively burning the planet to a crisp? That’s the system you’re gonna fix?
You say that like it’s a bad thing. Yeah, I’m very proud people fought and died to change a system for the better. Maybe if you tankies weren’t so cynical you’d be able see some of the good instead of only the bad.
Tankies think that anyone trying to fix the system instead of burning it down is a fascist.
I mean the system does need to be burned down. You can’t fix a machine that’s doing exactly what it was designed to do. You tear it down, maybe repurpose some of the parts, and build a different machine that doesn’t do what the previous one did.
Despite how relatively rough it is now it’s not anywhere near as bad as it was in the “golden age” of the 50’s or any of the times monarchs have lost their heads. If the “burn it down” crowd can’t work with others then they’re not the people you want building a new nation.
I work with others just fine. I do several different community volunteer projects every weekend, educate anyone willing to listen on how fucked everything is and how supporting any part of the uniparty will only continue to make things worse, join book clubs run by socialists, and help spread the word of actually good candidates at every level of government that run on third party platforms. This is how you begin the work to destroy and repurpose the machine.
I’m glad you’re able to do those things. A lot of people talk the talk online without actually living it offline.
That being said, I think “the uniparty” is just another way of saying “both sides bad,” a phrase uttered by right-wingers and right-wingers who fancy themselves fence-sitters while exclusively attacking left-wing candidates.
It’s a term that sanitizes apalling right-wing behavior while downplaying the work of progressives who take beatings, from “friend” and foe, while trying to accomplish anything that actually helps people.
I’ve no doubt that I just angered a few tankies by even calling members of “the uniparty” progressives, but as I said they’ll call them “genocidal imperialist capitalists” regardless.
I call them that because I’ve seen them time and again compromise with right wingers and many of them side with them on bills they didn’t even need the votes for. Even the “progressive” stuff they try to put forward isn’t progressive. People love to praise Obama’s ACA forgetting it was Romney’s health care act. People call Biden “one of the most progressive presidents we’ve ever had” forgetting that he gave massive amounts of funding to ICE and made lives harder for marginalized groups on his way out (I won’t bring up Gaza cause that’s just a given). He went on about raising the minimum wage…over the course of several years after he would be out of office anyway and not to any amount that would actually help people.
I don’t care if this comes off as “making perfect the enemy of good”. I care about standing up for what I believe in and so far the only candidates that run on what I believe in are third party candidates which is why I spend time helping them and voting for them. I live in a state that’s been deep red since the 90s and has only gotten more and more red with every election both big and small, so helping a party that makes friends with right wingers is pointless to me.
What’s the difference in foreign policy between the GOP and the Dems? All we see from outside the empire is fascism and bombs, regardless of who’s in charge.
We literally have worse wealth inequality than in 1700s France.
Would you rather live now or in 1700s France?
Because for me personally I enjoy living with the benefits of the various progressive eras that enable me to do things like buy meat that wasn’t sitting on the floor being eaten by rats and coughed on by a worker with tuberculosis.
Give it another few hundred years and we’ll look back at practices from 2026 that seem equally appalling.
Good for you?
“trying to fix” = voting for genocidal imperialist capitalist political parties
The system that killed a hundred million Native Americans, did hundreds of years of African slavery, initiated countless illegal wars of aggression which resulted in tens of millions of civilian deaths, and is now actively burning the planet to a crisp? That’s the system you’re gonna fix?
Yeah, because when the “burn it all down” crowd tried forming their own government to keep their slaves we had a war over it and they lost.
I’m sure you’re very proud that you only did slavery for the majority of your country’s existence, and not all of it.
You say that like it’s a bad thing. Yeah, I’m very proud people fought and died to change a system for the better. Maybe if you tankies weren’t so cynical you’d be able see some of the good instead of only the bad.
Unless the system™ resides in a country that historically opposes the USA