• Zachariah@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Valuing how to properly research things and having critical thinking skills is an ideology. And it’s a dangerous one to those whose ideology is faith-based epistemology.

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      Sometimes it’s faith. Others, it’s misguided distrust.

      We’re taught to take facts as truth in primary school, then taught to challenge those facts in higher education. As we mature, our desire to doubt naturally grows. Without education on how to properly research, those misguided feelings of doubt lead to anti-vax, flat Earth, and Egyptian alien conspiracy theories.

      They’re right in thinking the government is corrupt. They just don’t understand why they shouldn’t trust Truth Social either.

      • BougieBirdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        In grade school, I can think of two specific examples where we were taught a lesson that was supposed to develop critical thinking skills. The infamous Tongue Map and the Mpemba Effect (hot water freezes faster than cold water)

        Both of these are examples where an authority will confidently tell you a fact (which is bogus), then have you conduct an experiment which ought to disprove them.

        I did the tongue map in kindergarten. It’s obvious that it doesn’t hold up, but when I told my teacher about it she said I must have been doing it wrong. Later in grade school I did the experiment to ‘confirm’ the Mpemba effect. Despite the evidence before me I still lied on report and said that the hot water froze faster because I thought that’s what the teacher wanted. Apparently so did half the class, and because we did the experiment we all got a passing grade and were never told that it was supposed to be false.

        So I dunno. I guess they ought to teach critical thinking at a young age, but the instructors have to buy into it to.

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      And I would’ve gotten away with it too if it weren’t for you meddling empiricists!

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      Hey Time Traveller, welcome to 2024!

      Now I know back in the 19th, ideology was just a term to denote a set of ideas.

      And that’s cool and all. Viva la Renaissance!

      But we kind of diverged from then and did some injustice to the etymology of the word. Now it’s more like a synonym for dogma and it has negative connotations of irrationality and an unwillingness to examine arguments critically.

      Hope you enjoy your time in the 21st century and wait until you hear about what we did with the word “Gay”.

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      Can you please elaborate on what you mean by how that’s dangerous? Do you mean that how we’re taught to apply critical thinking and proper research while being overconfident in those tools leads to poor beliefs because the methods may be flawed or based on a false premise? Or do you mean something else? I don’t think I understand completely.

      (Please note I’m a bit sleepy but also intrigued.)

      • obre@lemmy.world
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        Zachariah’s saying that empiricism, cricical thinking, and scientific reasoning are seen as dangerous by people whose worldviews are based on faith rather than reality because questioning traditional and baseless narratives about the world causes cognitive dissonance. I think that the people who find it most dangerous are those in positions of power on the basis of those narratives who don’t want their followers or supporters to stop believing.