• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Hard no from me

    I don’t want some nutjob with too much time stalking me because I upvoted something about climate change or downvoted some bigoted shit. We all know those fuckos are out there

    Voting on Reddit-like platforms is soft moderation by a community, and if you disincentive that, the whole model kinda falls apart IMO

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      4 months ago

      I agree with you. I remember arguing about this a year ago when people first discovered votes were public on Kbin. I don’t want to obsess over who up- or downvoted me and I don’t want anyone else doing that either. Discussions are healthier when voting is anonymous (or at least obscured as is currently the case).

      If bots become such an overwhelming problem that all regular users need access to voting records to better report all the bots I’ll maybe revisit my stance. But right now the gains seem dubious.

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      4 months ago

      Mod-admins are already doing this, even if you vote and don’t comment on something.

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      4 months ago

      Isn’t the obvious thing to just have it be an option that admins can enable or disable? Maybe have a third option for only showing upvotes? Then it’s up to each instance to decide, and users can decide to go to instances with the option their prefer.

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      If they’re a serial downvoter, then it’s easier for you to track them and block them as well. Double edged sword i think

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      4 months ago

      It’s already public, it’s just lemmy users who don’t see them.

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      4 months ago

      What might be interesting would be to have it displayed, but grouped by instance. That way we could see some data and potentially uncover troll instances or attempts to brigade the conversation without opening ourselves up to personal attacks.

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      4 months ago

      I don’t want some nutjob with too much time stalking me because I upvoted something about climate change or downvoted some bigoted shit.

      They can read your comment history why would you care about them being able to see what you upvoted?

      Voting on Reddit-like platforms is soft moderation by a community, and if you disincentive that,

      How does that disincentive it? It actually makes it better

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        4 months ago

        I specifically don’t comment on people that give off the vibe they might be one of those kind of nutjobs, precisely because it gives them a notification with my username attached if I do. I’m on this site to kill some time with low effort, I want to minimise the risk of attracting the attention of some weirdo.

        I downvote in those scenarios and then report if appropriate. If enough other users feel the same way the comment goes down to the bottom of the thread and fewer users see it. Especially if it’s something that a mod eventually removes, as it reduces the reach until a mod can get to it.

        If I risk retaliation for doing that, I (and others) will just stop, meaning those comments stay up front & centre and we lose that soft moderation plus that engagement in general. Going into the comments will just end up being a worse experience

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      4 months ago

      I don’t want some nutjob with too much time stalking me because I upvoted something about climate change or downvoted some bigoted shit. We all know those fuckos are out there

      I’m dealing with one right now! lol It’s crazy.

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        You don’t even have serial downvoters. You have a few comments without many downvotes. You just consistently post the worst possible political pisstakes repeatedly and constantly and nobody likes them when they run across it every time.

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          You just consistently post the worst possible political pisstakes repeatedly

          Strange that you would say that. I haven’t posted any political articles to this community. This is the fediverse community.

          nobody likes them when they run across it every time.

          Really? So an article about a ninety year old woman, who finally graduates college, posted to my own sub, with 3 subscribers, and got 9 votes within a minute of posting is political? That doesn’t seem like a political “pisstake.”

          Or 13 downvotes in my own educational sub about a college that gives out 3-year degrees. It has 2 subscribers in that sub. That doesn’t seem like a political “pisstake.”

          Or 14 downvotes about a program serving underprivileged children and helping them go to college. and the downvotes were within 2 minutes of posting. To a sub that has 2 subscribers. That doesn’t seem like a political “pisstake.”

          And since all my postings to a political sub are about third parties, from legit news orgs, seems kind of a stretch to call them “political pisstakes.”

          But wait, I haven’t posted any of those articles to this community. So strange how you would know so much about what I post.

          Of course, posting history is public. But I haven’t checked your post history, because I don’t care. Strange that you would check mine. And then not mention all of the non-political posts.

          You know, what’s really weird too? I posted some articles to the c/science committee. And even some posters there commented on how strange it was that my posts were being downvoted so much and so fast, when the articles weren’t political at all.

          Luckily the science people are cool, and the upvotes quickly outnumbered the downvotes.

          But yeah, they were definitely curious about why so many downvotes so quickly on neutral science reporting.

          But meh, probably just a coincidence.

          I think maybe you are right. Because for sure there wouldn’t be an incel loser, who is so butthurt about my not voting for his candidate, that he’d follow me around. And downvote articles and take screenshots of how much I post, or set up alternate accounts just to engage with me after I blocked him.

          That’s way too strange. There is no way a loser would be so pathetic to do that. All because he doesn’t like the Green Party.

          So now that I’ve thought about it, I agree with you.

          It would be just too crazy that an incel loser like that would follow me around. I mean, sure he can’t get a girlfriend, but hey, I’m sure he’s not THAT mad at the world. :)