Another nuclear threat Russia? I’ll add it to the list. Seems a bit late though, with all those burning refineries and factories?
that is one of the two purposes of having nuclear weapons
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I see a flaw in this strategy.
I don’t believe they will. Why would Russia nuke lands it wants to claim for itself?
Russia has enough land they want Ukraine to be a non-NATO, neutral buffer state. It’s scary because if they can’t do that it seems they’re fine with making it a wasteland to achieve their desired buffer.
Yeah. It’s definitely not natural resources and access to trade routes.
I do think it is about making sure Ukraine is solidly within the Russian sphere of influence, not looking to the west. At least based on analyses like this video by Anders Puck Nielsen.
Not saying NATO has done anything wrong, just that it’s probably not about those two things you mention.
oh no they will get strongly worded condemnations from world leaders
I mean no shit?
Not ‘no shit’, the USSR had a ‘No first use’ policy. As does modern China, as does modern India.
Modern Russia isn’t USSR though.
Personally? I’m against the use of nuclear weapons in this way.
Nukes are supposed to be a deterrent. So as long as they’re bluffing…
me? im against crime. and I’m not afraid to admit it
I dunno I think some crimes are pretty, pretty coooool 😎
bobby newports… never had a real job… in his life…
life life life
Bobby newpoooort
And I’m willing to anonymously post it on the internet!
erase all pictures of ron!!!
Boof it?
Guess he wants to see Moscow glassed over
Goodbye Russia.
I wonder if the red lines crossed without nuclear repercussions has entered tripple digits yet.
Water is wet in other news.
Go.fuck.yourself.russia
yeyeye orrrrr the US empire could end it’s proxy war and NATO colonialism!
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The 4 oblasts, which is what Russia is trying to annex, voted to join Russia. The Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (not socialist, despite the name) both requested Russia to come in and help them against Kiev’s shelling of them.
Russia has no colonies, not since the Tsar. As the USSR, it was anti-imperialist and anti-colonial, and as the modern Russian Federation, it is too poor to practice imperialism, it lacks the financial capital necessary to plunder the global south. The dissolution of the USSR was devatating for their economy, even though they are capitalist now and thus would logically benefit from imperialism, they can’t actually practice it as the western Empire is already set up and fully saturates the global south.
Are you really citing those referendums? Putting aside the MANY criticisms of the methodology, there’s no referendum on earth that would legitimately get 85% turnout and 85% support without being supported by both sides.
Not reading the rest, because it is ludicrous to cite those referendum. And those blatantly fake referendums serve to de-legitimize Russia’s invasion almost as much as the hospitals they’ve bombed.
If you have evidence other than your personal doubts, let me see it. I don’t think it’s surprising that regions that are predominantly Russian ethnically, culturally, and linguistically, that were in a bloody decade long civil war, would vote to join Russia.
As I mentioned, I put aside the criticisms of methodology and just went wit the official claims of Russia.
Try reading this to get you started if common sense isn’t enough for you. If you still have issues, don’t come to me, do your own research because I can’t be bothered doing more than a wikipedia search for you.
I can’t be bothered doing more than a wikipedia search
Liberals in a nut shell
I’ve read it already, but thanks. Again, I don’t find it surprising at all that a group of ethnic Russians that have been in a decade-long bloody civil war would vote to join Russia over staying at war with Kiev. Criticize my common sense all you want, I don’t take western claims at face value either.
Try not to break your back bending over backwards that hard to justify Russian imperialism.
None of this is backbreaking, it’s well-established history even outlets like the New York Times were reporting on. Further, annexation isn’t imperialism by itself, the goal of the war isn’t plunder or expropriation of wealth, it’s to establish a buffer zone so the west can’t as easily invade by land. My stance is similar to communist orgs like PSL and FRSO. I’m a communist.
The gymnastics you’re displaying in avoiding the hard details of what’s going on, on the other hand, is more back breaking. Why are you batting so hard for the Banderites and the US Empire? Why not support the people of Donetsk and Luhansk?
establish a buffer zone so the west can’t as easily invade by land
Lolwut. The same west who’s sole military arm is currently licking Putin’s boots? Seems to me Russia had a much simpler and easier strategy if that’s all they wanted: bide their time and not get involved with any foreign military actions.
America seems to be collapsing (with or without their interference) and Europe wouldn’t have any public support for militarization without Putin rolling tanks around and brandishing nukes. NATO could have easily dissolved without doing anything in a decade or two, it was already starting to be viewed as a Cold War relic in the west.
You’re saying it’s logical to risk all of that just to help some poor, needy rebels? They need to defend themselves by painting themselves as the largest active aggressor? That’s just straight up bad geopolitical strategy. The 'Merica-Bad goggles have really messed with your vision.
The west is not “licking Putin’s boots.” They’ve realized that decades of millitary-industrial complex rot has decayed productive capacity, so the west has flashy tools but lacks the logistics to field a long-term war. Still, NATO served its function, as a millitant alliance of imperialist states meant to terrorize and force the world into capitulation.
It isn’t just the US that is collapsing, Europe is too. It depends on the same system of imperialism the US spearheads, that’s why the EU acts in near lock-step with the US when it comes to foreign policy. NATO will not dissolve until imperialism dissolves, even if it requires making up a new enemy constantly.
Russia likely cares little for the seperatists in the Donbass region. What it cares about is NATO neutrality, and establishing a buffer zone in the Donbass that prevents NATO from launching an easy land-invasion over the same route the Nazis took in World War II in Operation Barbarossa. It seems that Russia is going to achieve all of its stated goals, so if that’s “bad geopolitical strategy” then I’d have to say that there aren’t many countries I’d say qualify for “good geopolitical strategy.”
I don’t have “Merica bad” goggles, I’m a Marxist-Leninist. The US Empire is bad, but my thought-process, like other communists, focuses on taking a dialectical materialist approach, including analysis of imperialism in the west, and how that drives western foreign policy, and reaction towards that policy. If you want some place to start with reading theory, I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list.
You mean the little green men?
…what? Are you genuinely implying that everyone in the Donbass region is a disguised Russian soldier?
Oh so the US and NATO started attacking Russia right?
The US and NATO are literally fighting a proxy war against Russia as we speak. This has been openly stated now by no lesser person than the US Secretary of State.
NATO destroyed Libya.
Libya, Russia, same thing so I definitely see the relevance
So what does that have to do with Russia?
Did Nato threaten to use nukes? No Nato also doesnt attack, its a defense pact, so stop spreading russian propaganda.
NATO defensively destroyed Libya.
🤡
NATO destroyed Libya and Yugoslavia, it’s as much a “defensive” pact as the Israeli “Defense” Force is. And yes, NATO does threaten with nukes, that was the entire reason why the USSR sent Cuba nukes through project Anadyr, as a response to the Jupiter missiles stationed in Turkey and the overextension of NATO into East German territory. This practice hasn’t stopped, NATO encircles countries and threatens them with obliteration if they don’t capitulate and free up their markets for western plunder.
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What “shit” did I spew? Which of these do you disagree with:
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The west is imperialist
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NATO destroyed Libya
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NATO destroyed Yugoslavia
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NATO placed the Jupiter missiles in Turkey and directly aimed them at the USSR, prompting the USSR to send nukes to Cuba
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The IDF is an offensive force for settler-colonialism, not a defensive force
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NATO over-extended into East German territory
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NATO encircles countries to open them up for foreign plunder
All of these are well-established facts. In light of this, the Russian Federation is indeed under constant threat from NATO, a legacy of conflict that began in the Cold War against the Soviets and continues today against the RF. Russia’s survival as a country against NATO lies on nuclear deterrance, if they stop reminding NATO, then NATO will of course be more likely to cross red lines.
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Russia is literally a colonial power. NATO is a defensive alliance of countries that don’t want to be gobbled up by the Russian empire.
Name a Russian colony
Chechnya… Georgia… Azerbaijan…
You manged to name a Turkish colony there, have a gold star for trying.
Russia has no colonies. As the USSR, it was an anti-imperialist and anti-colonial force. After its dissolution, the economy imploded and is still recovering. It has had no opportunity to gain colonies like it had under the Tsar, even if they wanted to.
NATO started as an anti-communist alliance, with terrorist operations like Operation Gladio. Now, it maintains its status as the strongest alliance of imperialist countries on the planet. It’s as “defensive” as the Israeli “Defense” Force is.
As a person from a country that was illegally occupied by russia: Eat shit.
No. 👍
Russia has no colonies. As the USSR, it was an anti-imperialist and anti-colonial force.
Entire eastern Europe: *cough* *cough*
The SSRs were not colonies, they were a part of the broad USSR as a socialist economy.
Of course they were.
Yes, they were not colonies and were indeed parts of the broad socialist economy.
😂😂😂
What do you disagree with? Specifically.
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Nice bit of ableism and conspiracy theorism there, a classic duo!
Why do I get the feeling trump is giving them the nuclear bombs? Is that why Nazi barbie looked ashen after the trump Putin meeting?
You know Russia has had its own nukes for quite a while, right? It was kind of a big deal back in the 60s and 70s.
Yeah, but do they work? The US spends a lot of money on expensive computer simulations because they can’t just light them off anymore.
This is Qanon tier reasoning
No, its nuclear physics and material science. https://www.wired.com/story/nuclear-weapons-testing/ EDIT:
Here’s a non paywall https://web.archive.org/web/20250120073051/https://www.wired.com/story/nuclear-weapons-testing/
Yeah sure, ok. I’m sure Russias nukes don’t work, very reasonable conclusion
What in the world are you talking about?
Looks like I referenced the wrong Nazi, but I was talking about this
Still, what in the world are you talking about?
Just fucking do it already. Everybody is tired of your threats and the current state the world is in. Let’s have this extinction experience and restart if anybody survives.
No thanks, I really don’t want to die.
I have got bad news for you.
Sorry, thought it was pretty obvious that I really don’t want to die in a nuclear holocaust. I am aware I will die one day, hopefully from natural causes in my sleep.
Being at ground zero wouldn’t be a bad way to go. A bright light, then just gone.
Yeah, let’s pray. I just saw the opportunity to make a joke. But in reality, I understood what you meant and feel the same.
Yep, as fucked as it is, every new day of this madness just has me begging for the band-aid to be ripped off.
Edit: I retract my statement. Sorry, it was a long day at work.
Incapable of imagining the end of capitalism, liberals become a death cult that increasingly fantasizes about nuclear armageddon
“I’m either the good guy or I rather see everyone dead.”
sometimes i really do hope I’m reading a bot
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