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    Yeah, why even bother to distinguish between the authoritarians trying to seize permanent control of the most powerful country in the world, and every US soldier who’s ever served?

    Fuck off.

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      While difference between giving and following orders is meaningful, that does not free the latter people from responsibilities.

      Obviously that doesn’t condemn every soldier for the horrible shit their country have done (Cambodia?..) but this “respect the uniform” crap is also ridiculous.

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        Is it also ridiculous that the current overtly fascist administration would call out anti-fascism as a terrorist philosophy? 'Cos dude, it’s happening and there’s nothing ridiculous about it.

        Respecting the uniform, in this case, is less about Vietnam or Korea or the Middle-east or any of the more recent wars the US enjoined in… and more about the invasion of Normandy, the battle of the Ardennes or the liberation of Auschwitz.

        Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau… Are you not seeing that ugly militant specter is goose-stepping its way back into political vogue again?

        Take a breath, step back and look at the NOW.

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          So many comments around here show how uneducated Americans are on 20th century history.

          “OMFG it’s so BAD now!”

          Uh. You’re about out of time to grab a weapon, buy ammo and practice. The learning curve is steep and it’s about to get shitloads worse.

          “Ha! You’ll just die if you fight!”

          “And the alternative?”

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            …grab a weapon, buy ammo and practice…

            What makes you think I haven’t already?

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              My favorite liberal, who now that I think about it is probably leftist, has an entire car’s volume worth of ammo (I know because he didn’t want the movers to see it when he moved so we parked his ammo in our garage. It was bigger than the Nissan I was driving) and I used to wonder why

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                I’m in the Northeast US. You’d be surprised at how many 2nd Amendment Democrats there are up here.

                The current vogue in right-leaning circles is that liberals are all anti-firearm, limp-wristed sissies.

                That’s only as few, if any, would ever post pictures of themselves wrapped up in camo gear toting their firearms and chest thumping “MURRICA!!” at the top of their lungs.

                Who wants to be some easily identified target when the shit hits it?

                It’s that milquetoast looking guy driving the Prius that’s splattered with Sierra Club and Hike the Applachian Trail stickers on it that’s got an arsenal in his basement.

                The reality is, it was Marx, NOT Ronald Reagan, that opined that the working classes should resist efforts by the government to disarm them.

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          Is it also ridiculous that the current overtly fascist administration would call out anti-fascism as a terrorist philosophy? 'Cos dude, it’s happening and there’s nothing ridiculous about it.

          Yes? It’s absolutely ridiculous, are you kidding?

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          Respecting the uniform, in this case, is less about Vietnam or Korea or the Middle-east or any of the more recent wars the US enjoined in… and more about the invasion of Normandy, the battle of the Ardennes or the liberation of Auschwitz.

          None of which the POS served in.

          So instead of him wanking lyrical over how antifa he is (while wearing a literal military uniform), maybe they can reflect on what wars this absolute bellend was personally involved in and have some empathy for the victims of America and not their stormtroopers.

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            Or, maybe the whataboutisms of the past you dwell on only serve yourself, and not the hapless people getting swept off the streets and dragged off into the night.

            There’s time for critical discussion of the past - and you have NO idea if the man in the photo has not had any of the soul-searching conversations with his own actions or not - and there’s time for stepping up to the injustices unfolding in the NOW.

            I get it, that the past is a better cudgel to wield because it’s been written in blood, but the dwelling on that past, won’t bring a single victim to life again, or give them back what was taken.

            Now with that as a truth, what are you doing for the victims who are in the NOW?

            What does your rage over historical injustice do for them today?

            … ?

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        The Republican party thanks you for doing your best to sew division among their opponents.

        The rest of us wish you’d shove your purity testing into your least pure orifice.

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          Purity tests are now ‘not tolerating the My Lai massacre’?

          It’s like you lot sink lower and lower each time you refuse to ever take a stand against your countries own evils.

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            And HOW should we “take a stand” in your opinion, against those historical past evils?

            Should we scream in public, writhe on the ground and tear out hair out in contrition for shit that most of us had fuck all to do with?

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          I’d rather die alone that with baby killers.

          Why the fuck are you dbzer0 if you’re gonna simp for the us military?