You need a bit of mental gymnastics to go “oh but the style is such and such, therefore it is not nazi sign”.
I know fuck all about nazi styles and to me this looks like a nazi n⚡s, proclaiming that he is a national socialist.
He IS A FUCKING NAZI.
Edit: another point to add. If I was a dumb racist scum turned nazi, since I know fuck all about the ‘original’ nazi styles, most likely I would come up with some shit like this, that delivers the message but is not in the original style.
Remember, ICE agents are not smart or educated people that would know much about original nazi styles.
The full name of the Nazi Party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (German for ‘National Socialist German Workers’ Party’).
I know what “Nazi” means dude. There are a zillion things to criticise about these people; rest assured when they put nazi shit on things, it’s more obvious. Criticize and obsess over the right shit. That’s the whole point
What’s the difference between a nazi sign and a sign that is homage to Nazis?
According to you, one of them is okay, but not the other one?
One is that the sign itself actually resembles a nazi sign, and not other objects, and the other is something that is designed to emulate the ideas of nazi signs, without resembling them.
Both are bad. I don’t feel I have to actually point that out, but here I am. My goal with the comment here is to make you guys perceive reality and not jump at everything you see.
Yes, jump at the nazis for doing nazi things like arresting people randomly and deporting them after surgically removing subdermal implants, and not for NOT copying the SS insigna, which this is not.
I mean, it’s still at least some trumpy ass shit if not full nazi, but did you expect ICE to be Obama stans just because he deported more people than any other president in history (so far)?
I don’t see what NS split by a lightning bolt would refer to other than National Socialist - eg literally claiming affiliation/support to the Nazi party.
It is possible its something else and just incredibly bad fortune and an incredibly ignorant person who wouldn’t get that connection is wearing it - but given the context that it’s ICE… I’m leaning to it being a nazi dog whistle to other like-minded ICE officers.
I feel like you’re playing exactly into their hands. Make it similar enough that everyone is in no doubt as to what they’re saying, but different enough to give them plausible deniability if it ever got escalated.
Im not playing defence on either side here, this is pure lamentation :
You mean we need to be careful with lightning bolts too now? I used to draw them all the time as a kid. How many more potentially cool things are they going to co-opt and ruin for me?
Don’t talk about it like it’s an idle scribble in a copybook, they went to a lot of trouble to make that to put on their uniform. They know what they’re doing. Do not give them a single inch.
Drawing a lightning bolt ✅👍
Joining a fascist secret police group and putting a lightning bolt with fraktur-esque lettering on your uniform ❌👎
it could be an homage, but it’s not “nazi style” any more than a toxic chemical label is a Nazi style “Totenkoph”
it needs to have flat tops and bottoms to be “SS style”
Fuck ice, etc.
You need a bit of mental gymnastics to go “oh but the style is such and such, therefore it is not nazi sign”.
I know fuck all about nazi styles and to me this looks like a nazi n⚡s, proclaiming that he is a national socialist.
He IS A FUCKING NAZI.
Edit: another point to add. If I was a dumb racist scum turned nazi, since I know fuck all about the ‘original’ nazi styles, most likely I would come up with some shit like this, that delivers the message but is not in the original style.
Remember, ICE agents are not smart or educated people that would know much about original nazi styles.
Did you really tell someone else that they need a bit of mental gymnastics to not make an assumption?
“it could be an homage, but it’s not “nazi style” any more than a toxic chemical label is a Nazi style “Totenkoph””
“Fuck ice, etc.”
EDIT: Since these chucklefucks won’t touch the word “socialist” with a barge pole, it’s more likely his initials.
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I know what “Nazi” means dude. There are a zillion things to criticise about these people; rest assured when they put nazi shit on things, it’s more obvious. Criticize and obsess over the right shit. That’s the whole point
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Yeah, that’s a distinction without a difference
One is that the sign itself actually resembles a nazi sign, and not other objects, and the other is something that is designed to emulate the ideas of nazi signs, without resembling them.
Both are bad. I don’t feel I have to actually point that out, but here I am. My goal with the comment here is to make you guys perceive reality and not jump at everything you see.
Nah. The time for jumping at nazis with frothed up fury was yesterday. We’re all very very late. Get in there.
Yes, jump at the nazis for doing nazi things like arresting people randomly and deporting them after surgically removing subdermal implants, and not for NOT copying the SS insigna, which this is not.
the probability of randomly selecting someone with the initials “NS” is 1 in 676, or approximately 0.00148 (0.148%).
Tbf it doesn’t have to be his name, it’s more likely some trump supporter ass brand like “Never Surrender” or something. In fact h/o…
Edit: Well what’d’ya know? This is pretty close.
https://neversurrenderwear.com/collections/hats/products/never-surrender-gothic-off-white
I mean, it’s still at least some trumpy ass shit if not full nazi, but did you expect ICE to be Obama stans just because he deported more people than any other president in history (so far)?
What the fuck do you think N S stands for you absolute Muppet.
Neil Smith? It’s common for things to be marked to differentiate them in groups where the exact same thing is given to a bunch of people.
I don’t see what NS split by a lightning bolt would refer to other than National Socialist - eg literally claiming affiliation/support to the Nazi party.
It is possible its something else and just incredibly bad fortune and an incredibly ignorant person who wouldn’t get that connection is wearing it - but given the context that it’s ICE… I’m leaning to it being a nazi dog whistle to other like-minded ICE officers.
That’s pretty on the nose. I mean they’re not that bright, but still.
The intention is clear
Regardless of how bad it is, the lightning bolt is clearly intended as nazi shit.
They’re not good at making swastikas either, but no matter how deformed they still count as nazi shit.
Lol fucking idiots.
Oh god, those are so funny in a not funny way.
Ah yes, the old hail hortler.
I wish I could still find these as funny as the used to be.
I feel like you’re playing exactly into their hands. Make it similar enough that everyone is in no doubt as to what they’re saying, but different enough to give them plausible deniability if it ever got escalated.
That’s literally what a dogwhistle is.
Then if they ever get called out on it: “It’s just a joke, calm down. Can’t take a joke?”
Im not playing defence on either side here, this is pure lamentation :
You mean we need to be careful with lightning bolts too now? I used to draw them all the time as a kid. How many more potentially cool things are they going to co-opt and ruin for me?
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They better not fuck with my S
Don’t talk about it like it’s an idle scribble in a copybook, they went to a lot of trouble to make that to put on their uniform. They know what they’re doing. Do not give them a single inch.
Drawing a lightning bolt ✅👍
Joining a fascist secret police group and putting a lightning bolt with fraktur-esque lettering on your uniform ❌👎
It is the logo scrawled on the helmet of an active paramilitary that is serving our fascist regime. What the fuck else would it be?
Im not saying it isnt. Im saying god damn it cant the rest of us have anything?
Yeah those are 8s. The S has flat ends
Conservatives think Tylenol causes autism… Do you really think they have an eye for brand styles? Come on… Can we stop being intellectually dishonest?