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Peter_Arbeitslos@discuss.tchncs.de to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 11 months ago

We need a larger one. Yes, for the last time. Pleeeeeeeeeease!

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We need a larger one. Yes, for the last time. Pleeeeeeeeeease!

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    Just get it over with and start building an equatorial particle collider already.

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      Unironical support

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        Can we get a collider between moon an earth? I know, a lot of particles out there, but if we isolate it?

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          We currently can’t block enough radiation to make space travel safe for humans in long term situations unless we are blessed with the calmest of space weather based on some recent news about the long term effects on the kidneys in the conditions of space travel (source, I believe the research still needs to be corroborated https://phys.org/news/2024-06-astronauts-kidneys-survive-roundtrip-mars.pdf )

          We’re still not at the Star Trek radiation screen level, unfortunately. So I’m not confident we can isolate this well enough. Earths magnetic field and atmosphere do a lot of work for us, and we still cannot replicate their function well enough to make it safe for humans long term. And this is a project that was put underground because it was more sensitive than humans.

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            I think we could easily shield this, it would just be stupendously expensive to bring all that lead up there

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        Put one of them magnet floating trains on top please.

        The equator express.

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          How about refular trains?

    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      … around the sun.

      • neidu2@feddit.nl
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        Free power as well. I see no downside to this.

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          Accidentally accelerates the whole mass of the sun in a fragile ring of superheated plasma at ridiculous speeds.

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            Wouldn’t want to waste a trip.

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          Capitalism. Privatization of Sun.

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      Orbital particle collider or bust

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        That’s what the asteroid belt is for!

      • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works
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        The GEO Particle Collider.

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      A gaggle of particle physicists standing in a circle chanting “RING! WORLD! RING! WORLD!”

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        Surely the collective noun for a group of particle physicists has to be A Theory.

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      Just put it in orbit! Let’s commit and put a ring on this planet!

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      Honest question could this be feasible with a few dozen satellites positioned above the Van Allen Belts to accelerate particles, and just letting the particles raw dog the solar wind and ride around Earth’s gravity well between each acceleration satellite? Cause that would be badass

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        No, to orbit the earth at an height of let’s say 1000 km you would need a speed of around 7km/s. If you go faster, you don’t follow an circular orbit. Wirh around 11km/s you would be so fast to leave the gravity well of earth. The particles in those colliders are almost moving at the speed of light. To be exact, they move only 3.1m/s slower than the speed of light, so almost 300000km/s. They would fly almost straight and would be barely influenced by the gravity well.

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          Ok, so a huge circular tube it is then

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      Skip that. Put it in orbit and make it double as a solar collector array and beam the extra energy back down.

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      Fr no solid theoretical basis, just trust me bro

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    Saturn is one step ahead of us

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      Perfect! A bunch of raw materials are already there! We just need to refine them and assemble them into a particle collider.

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      They’ll be gone in another 15 million to 400 million years.

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    The two first are the same?

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      Ops, I meant the Proton Syncrotron.

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    Decades of colliding hardons and what do we have to show for it

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      Just the Higgs boson, which is exactly what the LHC was originally built for. But other than the intended results, it’s been basically useless!

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        But other than the intended results, it’s been basically useless!

        Tbf, there are quite a few big experiments that have been done and will be done with the LHC, not just the Higgs boson search.

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      The hardons haven’t been colliding fast enough. Sorry boys, I don’t make the rules

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      Confirmation of the principles they built the thing to demonstrate.

      Every time so far.

      This isn’t far off from some dipshit saying the place program was a waste of resources.

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        I think they were making a hardon joke more than questioning scientific research

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          I need to remind myself people here aren’t as dumb (or dumber depending on how much you like the hardon joke) as you average internet user and maybe lower my defense a couple notches.

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      it was about the hardons we collided along the way

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    It’ll still be called the Future Circular Collider when it’s shut down after forty years of service. You gotta commit to a scale in the proposal, like the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope.

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      Relevant xkcd

    • (⬤ᴥ⬤)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Chucky McParticleface

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        Lead engineer, Dr. Slab Bulkhead.

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    Orbital collider when?

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      Maybe that’s the real Kardashev scale…

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    Just one more collider bro I swear just this one and we’ll fix the standard model bro just one more I swear

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    The last time? aaaahahahaa… no. There are several phenomenon that require energy levels that only stellar objects can throw off. They’ll be asking for bigger colliders even when they’re dedicated space stations firing what would be equivalent to weapons of mass destruction at each other.

    Unless scientists can figure everything out just by observing space, there will always be a demand for a bigger collider. Since scientists like to control variables and don’t like waiting for random events that they then almost have to reverse-engineer to explain (without most all of the sensitive detectors built in to these colliders), there will always be a demand.

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      I said 10y, but yes it will need a lot more colliders.

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      “We just want to smash two little planets together at 99% speed of light!”

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        I’m inclined to let them. I wanna see that,

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    Larger Hadron Collider

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    Why does a larger loop mean better results?

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      More size = more speed and more particles colliding = more bang = more data = for example possibility for dark matter and/or heavier particles to be found.

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    Is we even sure Geneva hasn’t already been overrun by the Combine?

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      No, that would be Bulgaria

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    I like how it went from second to third picture. Borders? Who needs borders?

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    When I see massive and highly technical projects like this I wonder where they find enough skilled labor to build it. Just look at the immense complexity of this and they have to build miles and miles of it underground. I’m imagining that all of the construction workers have PhDs in physics or some shit. Or am I overestimating the demands here?

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      Overestimating it a little, the construction workers just need to be good. But there are indeed literally thousands of PhDs working on it for decades, from all over the world.

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