The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.

Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue

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    So teens learn about Tor & VPNs. This stuff doesn’t work. The higher you put the skills to get access, the more they will learn. Nothing motivates teens more than access to adult stuff. Maybe this is really a tech literacy policy.

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    Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.

    Making sure your kids don’t go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.

    Not the fucking state.

    And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I’ve ever seen.

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      Exactly! Government granted ‘porn credits’ sounds absolutly insane as a serious idea…

      Porn “Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits” is one wild sentence.

      A porn “enthusiast”, requesting the government for porn credits, to watch porn? What?

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      In my experience most parents are to lazy to keep up with setting appropriate restrictions for kids and like some parents, they expect someone else to raise and take care of their children.

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        That’s their problem. I’ll handle my kids, fuck the government and fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.

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        So what? I’ve had the exact same experience.

        It’s not a reason for the state to overstep into ALL our lives. In fact, the state stepping in is giving such parents yet more excuses to put even less effort into shaping the adults that their children will become.

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    Wow good job Spain.

    I guess this works because email doesn’t exist.

    I guess this works because file sharing applications and websites don’t exist.

    I guess this works because VPN’s free and paid don’t exist.

    I guess this works because Tor, i2p, Freenet, and Yggdrasil don’t exist.

    I guess this works because torrenting doesn’t exist.

    I guess this works because black markets don’t exist.

    I guess this works because chat applications don’t exist.

    To be a fly on the wall of these government meetings where they talk about this shit would surely be the funniest fucking thing in the world.

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      You are right, it’s really stupid.

      But it’s also stupid not to consider, that it’s not the real reason they made this in the first place.

      They want to track you, and porn is the first excuse. If this is a success you might need this passport for alot of other things.

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        Thank you for contributing!

        You’ve used the last of your political observation credits for the month. If you’d like to request more, please visit yourcountry.gov citizen portal and fill out the application. Your wait time will be 3-5 business days. We apologize for the wait but we are currently receiving a high volume of applications.

        -govbot

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      I want to be at the meeting a year from now where they realize only two people have ever signed up ‘Yay we fixed porn!’

      Buy who am I kidding they brought VPN shares before this was introduced

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        Bought VPN shares and water shipping company shares because they know wasting money on this shit instead of on public infrastructure to provide more reliable clean water is only good for commercial interests.

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    It will be fun for one unashamed porn addicted user to keep making so many requests to this service that they break it.

    “Javier, it’s been 30 minutes since your last credit application.”

    “MORE CREDITS. CAN’T TALK.”

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    At least it will raise tech literacy among youth. If it isn’t as easy and would require some thinking that’s already better than 99% of homework.

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      Those kids will install a VPN faster than this bill goes through the Spanish parliament.

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        Even something as straightforward nowadays as VPN install can educate a person about cybersecurity as a side effect.

        Thing is most stuff is simply too easy too acquire nowadays. No effort. No thought. Just endless stream of dopamine that is too addicting to even bother inquiring about how the very thing you are using works.

        The victory of convenience will defeat us. There has to be some effort needed to acquire things otherwise they lose any value.

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    It’s always porn, isn’t it? We don’t need to protect children from misinformation, fascism, violence, racism, discrimination or exploitation on the internet, it’s always just porn for some reason…

    • No one wants to tell the government they’re watching porn, especially in a Catholic country like Spain.

      It’s intended to reduce porn use, often to fuel conservative hate-driven ideology movements. Sexually frustrated people are more eager to endorse violence against marginalized groups.

      It’s pure sociological manipulation.

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        Sexually frustrated people are more eager to endorse violence against marginalized groups.

        Aren’t they more likely to endorse violence against the politicians enacting these dumb laws in the first place?

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          Sure. Which is why autocrats turn to fascism (that is a mythical history of an in-group and out-groups) to redirect that outrage against other races, other ethnicities, other religions, women, LGBT+, countercultures, teenagers, immigrants, etc. And it works because the naked ape is already frustrated with society being too big (hundreds of thousands rather than dozens), and is always looking for common traits among bad drivers and untidy neighbors.

          And it works every time, since it takes effort to be rational and practice tolerance. Mostly the lumpenproletariat (simple folks who are not politically savvy) are the driving force behind hate campaigns, but the rest of us start wondering if so many people are negging on the Jews, maybe there’s a point. And rumors like blood libel and groomers helps those feelings along. 24-hour propaganda on FOX News and OAN helps too.

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    I don’t think porn is a good thing, but the fact that even if you’re an adult with a pass you are limited is pretty bizarre. this is on top of the fact that you are already giving up your privacy to view it.

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    Hola señores, necesito más créditos de la pornografía porque sus madres tienen tetas grandes.

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    Kids can torrent my dude. Been doing it since I was like 13, and that’s only because before that I was using limewire, then frostwire, then bearshare, then I found torrents because TPB took over. I’ve been pirating since I was like 9.

    That is to say: This dumb ass bullshit isn’t even going to work.

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      I come from a state that has officially mandated that porn websites must verify your age to use them for years. There were many websites that just didn’t give a fuck. X videos in particular. They do now require you to hit a button saying “I’m 18” to process, but I think my point stands.

      These laws do nothing, really.

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        The “I’m 18/21” button on websites has been around since I was a kid in the 90s, used to have to input the “actual” date too so I was born 01/01/1970 according to a lot of now defunct porn sites lol. Also still in use on tobacco, vape, alcohol, and gun websites as well.

        But yeah as I am am example of, lying is always possible lol. I guess this passport or the ID thing in some states is supposed to hinder that, but torrent sites throw a wrench into any censorship efforts and they’re already illegal, they won’t play ball with the ID bullshit, ever.

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      former average dc++ enjoyer here, there’s like 6 of us

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      Please, I’ve been pirating on C64 before I even got the concept of pirating.

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          Umm, didn’t mean to deride you, sorry that I wasn’t clear enough about that, I should’ve been more precise. What I meant to say was that I was pirating before I knew what pirating even meant. I was not old enough at the time and it was in the good old times of C64 when people weren’t generally aware of piracy.

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            The “please” at the beginning of a statement (not a question) like that is typically used to patronize or condescend, usually only used when being hostile or dismissive. If English isn’t your first language I can understand the misunderstanding.

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    Wait, what are the credits for? You spend them to watch porn or what? So when you’re out of credits you’re locked out? Sorry but… wtf?