This is no different than the other 5 times we’ve heard about Biden scolding or begging or setting red lines with Netanyahu behind closed doors, while continuing to send them weapons and protecting them from anyone trying to stop the genocide.
Supporting Israel is not just morally repugnant, it’s a mistake.
Biden was the most fanatical supporter of Israel in the 80s. Even Ronald Reagan told Israel to GTFO out of Beirut when he saw the barbarity of the IDF in the early 80s. He said to the then PM of Israel that they were doing a holocaust. Even when the PM tried to admonish Reagan by telling him ‘don’t tell me about holocaust, I know about the holocaust’ Reagan told him to fuck off and withdraw or he will withdraw support.
After hanging up Reagan turned to an aide and said ‘I had no idea I had that kind of power’.
Oh no, not another heated exchange of words.
Anyways, time to ship more 2,000 pound bombs over there.
Pretty much.
Better wag that finger even harder.
Then vote for me.
a senior Israeli official [said] that Netanyahu has been feeling more emboldened to strike Iran since Biden’s July 21 decision to drop out of the 2024 US presidential race.
STOP SENDING ARMS TO ISRAEL! Seriously. If we stopped sending arms today, Israel still has enough ammo to slaughter Palestinians for another 8 months. Stopping arms sales wouldn’t hinder the Israelis’ war, but it might give enough pause to help Palestinian peace.
If Netanyahu wants Trump in office there’s not much out there with a higher impact than getting an American Carrier group sucked into a war with Iran and then publicly saying the democrats aren’t willing to really fight. Add in assertions they’re putting Americans in danger without letting them defend themselves…
Yeah, Biden dropping out was good but it opened the door to some real fuckery because Biden just cannot bring himself to realize the problem in the ME right now is Israel.
Having the US overthrow yet another government in the ME isn’t going to fix things
And yes the threat is Israel escalating the war to force the US to help
I can think of one ME government that could use a change of leadership. And it’s also the one we don’t have to attack to change.
If you’re talking about Israel then that’s what I was addressing
If you’re talking about Turkey or Egypt then why?
There is also a theory that people tend do choose more masculine leaders in times of war
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227054-600-war-torn-countries-prefer-masculine-leaders/
Well yea, because warfare has been a “man’s game” for well over 2000 years. I heard an interview with an undecided (woman) voter who was concerned that, even if western societies are more equal to women, the leaders from countries that don’t give women rights won’t respect her and the US by extension. When the interviewer asked her about powerful women in other countries like Germany, she said it’s different because “those countries” are smaller than the US.
Stopping arms sales wouldn’t hinder the Israelis’ war,
Gosh if only there were some way to take away those bombs.
Oh well.
Also it would halt any dreams that Israel has of attacking Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria. They would not have the supplies in order to wage a war against people who have actual armies.
Bibi:
Why? It works every time with no consequences.
Why anyone would tolerate a guy like this to avoid short-term fallout is a part of politics I can’t understand. It seems to me that a single partner being willing to bite the bullet would defeat him.
Did you watch the speech at congress? That’s why. I’m not sure Biden ever had those many people in there applauding 40 times. It’s revolting.
I mean, that doesn’t help explain why. I’m not just talking about the Americans either. He’s in a precarious coalition government right now.
I thought you meant why Biden tolerated him, he’s the one trying to avoid short-term fallout, congress usually does not get blamed for foreign policy…except in Ukraine…actually lots of exceptions :/
I mean why would anyone tolerate a political actor who’s actively famous for perpetually dicking over people who tolerate him. He does it within Israeli politics too; with the forever war they’re currently in (so he doesn’t have to face an election) being just one example.
China’s final warning == Russia’s final warning == Biden’s final warning.
The only reason I see to take this even half seriously is because Biden doesn’t have anything left to lose.
Jack if you keep fooling me like this I’m gonna have to send only 2 billion worth of bombs next month. jk I would never do that, I love you mother
„Stopping israel from annihilating the Palestinian people is distancing us from a peaceful solution”
Harris needs to put Netanyahu in his place.
How about, you know, actually let her create and execute foreign policy before you judge her. She’s clearly started distancing herself from Biden’s carte blanche approach, but it’s not a good idea (electorally) to move to fast on that front, because AIPAC throws a LOT of cash around.
I deadass told everyone Biden was gonna copycat Obama’s policy because he was a VP with no plan of his own.
He did exactly that.
How tf is Kamala going to magically gain a moral conscious overnight, let alone a functioning policy plan that isn’t going to be a copy of Biden.
Especially considering she was the least popular candidate in 2020.
30 years of snake oil promises from literally every president and yet people still fall for the ol “let’s give them a chance to prove themselves”
actually let her create and execute foreign policy before you judge her.
So we don’t get to criticize a candidate before they take office?
If you want to criticize them on their previous actions sure. But she isn’t the one sending the bombs. And her only actions so far have been to call for a ceasefire. Making up conversations between her and the Israelis isn’t criticizing her, it’s propaganda.
She is the one who condemned protestors for protesting against Netanyahu’s address before Congress.
The protest organizers let people march with Hamas flags and icons. That’s not acceptable in the current political climate.
Dude.
Those were Palestinian flags.
To be fair, while this may be her likely answer, she hasn’t spoken anything definitive on the issue. There is room for optisism even if it isn’t high.
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I would argue its the reverse, most the media is a corporate/billionaire owned. Billionaire and corporate media isnt going to act in the public’s best interest.
Billionaire and corporate media isnt going to act in the public’s best interest
I absolutely agree with that. So why do we trust them on anything at all?
I do think a lot of well-meaning people go into journalism. It just means there’s some problems to look out for
Call me when Biden starts doing something about it, Netanyahu isn’t going to stop.
I like how the shitty MBFC bot suspiciously isn’t in this thread.
It is in this thread, it posted two days ago with a high reliability rating. People downvoted the shit out of it.
Ah, that’s because I’ve blocked it
Then promptly sends a few billion more in money and weapons.
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Lol
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This bot is on some shit lol
The bot is accurate. Most people getting mad at Times of Israel are just getting mad because Jews. It’s nominally accurate, and most of the political scandals of Israel itself are reported there. It’s clearly not propaganda.
This piece of shit bot rates The Washington Post as a leftist. This thing is beyond crazy. No one with any credibility can defend it.
Is it the bot doing or does it just source it from grounded?
It sources it from MBFC.
I can’t imagine in what universe you find that to be a purposeful distinction.
I use grounded as my news source, I never looked too closely… If this is taken from there, I should reavulate my use of the app.
But hey, downvote away!
Wtf? Lol
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The actual fuck is wrong with you
So many things.
Lost_My_Mind
Well the username is apt at least
I think you’re talking about this
