• damdy@lemm.ee
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    This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight… except it’s not even a knife fight it’s a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump’s only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

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    I thought the President controlled the US Military but State Guards were authorized by the Gov? Surely Trump isn’t overstepping gave a Newsome because he thinks it gave him. Newsome is part of the problem, right?

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    They’ve been salivating for an opportunity like this. I bet they thought it would have happened already

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    Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

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      The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that’s not going to solve this. It’s just going to start a true resistance.

      There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

      As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that’s when they kill them.

      All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

      The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

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    Maybe a bit of a hot take, but I think Trump is also doing this at least partly to distract from his spat with Musk’s Epstein implications. Not to mention Trump’s upcoming parade. Also, keep in mind that 2,000 Nat’l guard troops is surprisingly low, especially for an area the size of L.A. In '92 they brought in almost 10,000.

    I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous about this, too, but personally I believe people need to keep their cool, here. I’m seeing a lot of doom spiraling and panicking all over the place online and we need to be mindful of how this affects us mentally and emotionally.

    We’re in the long game.

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      This is basically my take as well, Californian cities are fucking massive and 2,000 people in LA especially is barely a drop in the bucket. Also these are National guardsmen who may very well be pissed they are being sent to stand around outside in LA during the summer, the concrete and blacktop does not let go of heat easily.

      Edit: Bucket not bugget, my auto correct is on bath salts.

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          And there’s another factor, out of any militarized element in the US the national guard have the potential to be the least threatening. They were affected by the post Vietnam reforms just like the rest of the branches, especially after Kent state. Fact of the matter is the guardsmen are far more likely to take issue with ICE and the police in general, reminder that quite a few came forward after the BLM protests saying they wanted to defend the protestors from the police.

          Mind you that doesn’t eliminate risks involved but it does mean that there is far far more potential for this to utterly backfire in Trump’s face.

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      No its not to distract from Musk. He is lowballing deployment so if/when it doesnt work and he deploys the actual Army or Marines it will seem “reasonable”. He is 100% looking for a reason to fuck California hard and will get it.

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    “The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”

    Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.

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    It has begun. Trump unleashing the army against the population fighting against his gestapo.

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      Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said in a post on X that the Defense Department is “mobilizing the National Guard IMMEDIATELY to support federal law enforcement in Los Angeles. And, if violence continues, active duty Marines at Camp Pendleton will also be mobilized — they are on high alert.” ~ABC News

      They are already threatening to send in Marines…

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      I am very fearful that many protesters will be murdered in the coming days.

      And things will deteriorate quickly

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    You mean the Man who Deployed Secret Police in his FIRST TERM is Deploying the National Guard in his SECOND TERM? I did NAZI This coming!

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    Distraction or not, Trump is a coward who thinks deploying soldiers at a protest will make him look tough. It doesn’t. It makes him look scared and pathetic.

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      It’s because he is. Him and most of his cronies are at a point where if they do not maintain power until they die, they may face extreme consequences.

      The good thing is I guess they know that. The bad thing is, when it’s that or maintain power, what lengths will they go to?

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      The downfall of democracy is the existence of the US. The downfall of the US is the birth of democracy elsewhere.

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      we had a good run!

      I’d rank it as ‘just OK’ compared to how the rest of the western developed world is doing and how many resources and advantages we had from the start. We can do much better next time. I think in the upcoming defederation we are not only going to let the south secede, we will insist on it. Godspeed to texas, florida, and the south.

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        Given the fact that the US was the first modern democracy, was born from a revolution, and was hobbled by the fucking South from day one is say it did pretty damned good. Seriously it could’ve failed as early as the whiskey rebellion but it didn’t.

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      Or its revival. This might become the spark that turns these protests into a revolution.

      A new Boston massacre may be in our future

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        I honestly hope this is the case, that would clearly be the best possibly outcome.

        Revolution can also be slow, especially when it comes to tech oligarchs helping to enable to current administration, they can easily help obfuscate the narrative.

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      Oh, that happened the instant the SCOTUS declared the president above the law and Biden didn’t say “fuck you, idiots”, fire all the justices who ruled in favor of that decision at gunpoint, appoint all new justices in their place, and then declare that ruling void by fiat. If you’re about to say “the president can’t do that”, the SCOTUS declared the president above the law, he actually can.

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        🤣

        Compared of what is to come yes! But I get how you feel, things have been in decline for a long time but this is definitely going to be the darkest chapter yet.

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    “purposefully inflammatory”

    Uh… this goes a bit beyond “inflammatory” chief.

    Bass said in a statement Saturday night. “Everyone has the right to peacefully protest, but let me be clear: violence and destruction are unacceptable, and those responsible will be held accountable.”

    Well at least he got the stuff about feckless Democrats right.

    Police on Friday night issued a citywide tactical alert nearly two hours after declaring protests across the downtown area unlawful assemblies. “The use of less lethal munitions has been authorized by the Incident Commander,”

    I mean ACAB so this isn’t new, but still holy authoritarianism batman.

    Newsom said in a statement responding to Huerta’s arrest, describing the union president as a “respected leader, a patriot and an advocate for working people.”

    I’d like that sentiment to carry over to, you know, actual policy, but I guess he’s not folding like a lawn chair yet.

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      But you dont understand one protestor littered , meaning that it is now an illegal gathering and that the thousands of people gathered are a violent mob.

      Very convenient

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        Having seen a couple of vids from folks on the ground it seemed akin to a proper French riot. Folks lobbing bricks, makeshift barricades, vehicles burning etc.

        Yeah folks may feel justified an upset but it isn’t exactly surprising when authorities crack down to restore order in such a situation.