And productivty drops for most people after 6 hours of working.
I have diabetic retinopathy and about 10 years ago, I saw enough blind spots that I stopped driving. My company accommodated me by letting me work from home. We already had another employee who was doing that for vision issues, it was simple to do.
Because we were successful, they replaced our desktops with laptops at refresh time and started letting everyone work from home 1 day a week. Then when Covid hit, they just told everyone to bring their laptops home and WFH full time. The CEO talked about return-to-office for a year or two but decided to make it optional.
It’s an amazing benefit. It gave me back about 90 minutes every day, and my dog doesn’t have to be crated during the day. I can sleep later and have access to my own kitchen for lunch. Theres a reason that average tenure in my department is around 20 years.
I personally hit a wall at 41 minutes of in-car travel time for a daily commute. I’ve timed it. Every second after that feels like a whole level of abnormal waiting, a kind of cold torture or injustice that you must wade through to to your destination. It’s not a healthy headspace at all. I’ve naturally sought out shorter commutes after this revelation, and yeah, the 30 minute estimate seems right.
I used to have about an hour long commute, and I kinda enjoyed it. I had shit to do at work, and shit to do at home, so being in the car for a while really let me calm down and center myself most of the time.
Imagine you had 2hours more every day so you could work through the todo at home and enjoy the rest of your time at home or anywhere else that is neither your work nor your car.
I get it, but I just can’t get to that place mentally in stop-and-go-bumper-to-bumper traffic for that long. Not even half that long. If that was a nice 50mph cruise the whole time, sure.
Traffic jams make driving infinitely worse. It requires so much more attention.
I know a guy that’s doing at least once a week, probably more, commute from DC to New York City. To be a product guy at a like 5 person company. As if you really need to be in a shared office to move jira tickets, ask eng again “How’s that feature coming?”, and so on. The CEO is a crazy person.
The CEO is also making the front end developer guy who lives in Connecticut come into the office 2-3 times a week. So he can work on his web page, the one with the code stored on github.
I hate all this “return to office” stuff. I don’t care about management’s feelings or real estate investments, and I don’t care about people who hate their family and can’t focus at home. Making people commute is a pay cut and a blow against labor.
My department just got called in for an RTO with zero warning, with 3 days in person for a ~160 person department.
There are ~20 desks available. Do the math.
This next week is going to be a disaster for their coked up idea of good business practices.
Please update us if you can, that sounds like a delicious level of schadenfreude.
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So it’s been a few weeks, and the result has been unfortunately anticlimactic.
So for starters, there was actually closer to 60 seats available, so somebody was either lying or mistaken about seat count by the time it got to my group.
Then, it also appears that the enforcement of it has been lagging. It seems my manager was one of a few who listened, and others did not.
On the bright side, they haven’t given us shit for leaving at lunch and working from home the remainder of the day. I’ve been doing so as much as possible because fuck contributing/being stuck in traffic. Though I’m sure they’ll close this partial loophole soon.
So it all just fucking sucks for no reason. Wooo
Damn. I hope you can find something better where they aren’t treating you like a frog in a slowly heating pot
I hope so too. But the job market is fucked, especially for software development.
Yeah. Antiwork will eat it up.
I wanna see the chaos too!
Someone should get a fog machine so visibility in the packed office drops to zero, and hand out free vuvuzelas at the entrance.
Sounds legit, I turned down multiple higher roles in my last company after doing a test commute to the more remote office. It was consistently 90-120 minutes each way. That would end up with me be away at work for 12-13 hours each day for 8 hours of paid work.
Had a similar experience. Job wanted me but I’m not spending 2 hours commuting.
This was before remote work was a common thing.
There are people at a place I worked that did a 2 hour trip each way each day.
yep, I work in Montreal, an island… crossing a bridge the morning and the evening is 1h in summer up to 3h in winter (one way!!!). At least since COVID I WFH, save 2h+ a day.
Fuck having to use a bridge to get to or from the South Shore for a commute. As soon as there is an accident your are screwed.
That’s me.
I work in a very small city entirely surrounded by a much larger one. The one I work for is an enclave for the 0.1%. The average new home build here is over 10 times the price that of the major city that surrounds us, which is also very expensive for the region.
Suffice to say, I can’t live here. I live in a shitty trailer that’s about 2 hours away with traffic, but costs $700 a month as opposed to $3000+ for a tiny 1-room apartment near work.
The commute sucks, but I save $115 every day I commute.
Fortunately, I like audio books.
Do you work in the Vatican?
Anything beyond 45 minutes is a schlep and there better be something good for me losing an hour and a half or more of day in transit. Especially a car where I can’t even read or relax.
Marchetti intended the constant to be 1 hour round trip, so a half-hour commute one-way. It’s an important distinction, since here in Atlanta the exurban commuter is clocking in at 1.5 hours or more into the city, well outside of what is considered tolerable. Multiply that by a million and you get some irritated people.
Is housing that expensive in Atlanta?
Its traffic is notoriously bad, so you don’t have to live far away to deal with a long commute.
That’s disgusting, and I now feel bad for Atlanta.
also they’re surrounded by fuckin repedoclicans
We have a lot of sprawl here and the reasons are many. Just like Dallas and LA, we have a ton of road infrastructure and zoning laws that eat up a lot of land. We also don’t have any natural barriers, like an ocean or a mountain range, to limit our expansion. Just to keep building and add another lane. Thanks for asking.
the funny thing is, every city is always just one more lane away from solving their traffic problems.
This is totally bullshit, the Starbucks CEO hardly minds his 2-3ish hr commute from CA to Seattle by private jet.
If the poors weren’t so stupid and lazy they’d buy jets for a more comfortable commute too. /s
I do an hour and a half single trip. It’s only twice per week and it’s by train. So I read a book or I bring my steamdeck. I really don’t mind it. I’d be less happy if it was 5 days per week. I’d still be going by train, but also looking for a better job.
If my commute isn’t a 30 second walk to my home office I won’t take the job.
I wonder how this looks for people with flexible commuting methods. I can bike to work (45 mins each way) or take the train with some walking (40 mins), or take the metro to the train with very little walking (50 mins). The fact that it’s sometimes exercise helps break it up, and I don’t much mind it
To me, two hours of my life I’m not getting back looks like two hours of my life I’m not getting back. Happy to do that for the exercise or something some of the time, but regularly it’s a very high cost.
Imagine having a choice for how you get to your destination
(this comment made by the American gang)
Yup, it was a big factor in where we wanted to go outside of the US. I can’t imagine going back to car life again
Would you like to commute in a car, or in a pickup truck?
I’ve in my entire life never had this short a commute. All the following is one-way commute: 45 minutes to school growing up. 2,5 hours to university 5 days a week for years. 1,5-2 hours to work since. Since the pandemic only 2 days a week though, which is a relief.
Sure it would be nice if it were shorter, but using public transport helps. At least I get to relax, play a game, knit, etc. And not living in a polluted city and having a yard makes it worthwhile.
using public transport helps. At least I get to relax, play a game, knit, etc.
This is true, but only if it’s not crowded and you get to sit down. The same commute time feels completely different during rush hour and off-peak.
Why haven’t you moved closer? When I started university, I could’ve had a 1,5 hour commute by car but I moved closer and now it’s 5 min by bike
2.5 hours is wild. You spent 5 hours a day commuting?
Well, for 2 years I did 2 hours each way, then they changed around some public transport times and it was 2.5 hours for another 2 years.
I did most of my homework, solo parts of projects and studying in public transport.
That’s rough. I honestly couldn’t do that.
Where do you live?
The Netherlands mainly
That’s not typical, right? Few sites I found say average nl commute is 19km. I commute around 13km on bicycle and it takes around 35 minutes mostly because of traffic lights.
Statistically most of those people likely live in a city themselves. Of my direct colleagues 70% have similar commutes to mine. They also all live in the countryside somewhere or in smaller, less expensive cities. Most of them use the car instead of public transport though.
Shit that’s comparable time from Gothenburg to Oslo
laugh-cries in 4 hour commute to a job only 50 miles away
Fuck the Altamonte, man… Where’s our fucking high-speed train?
Bro sell drugs instead wtf
