DVD, Blueray, VHS? I’ve never heard of those torrent sites before 🏴☠️
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Missed opportunity IMO there should totally be a piracy product or site called VHS
Virtual Home Streaming
Digital Video Download
Subcaption Direct to Disk
I LOVE IT
Sounds dangerous, you could get a problem with copyrights with a name like that.
JVC still owns the trademark. https://trademarks.justia.com/731/03/vhs-73103407.html
def couldn’t use the logo, you’d at least get a c&d and likely followup court
they are what your torrents evolved from.
Because I’m uncreative, I’m just going to steal the joke from Sseth.
Because the vehicle in From Software’s game, Elden Ring, is called “Torrent”, I can’t wait for the next From Soft character “Punjabi Codex Denuvo, pre-cracked Novirus [MeGusta]”.
Have you heard of doing both? (^_-)
We’re fast approaching a time where owning media is considered a luxury.
Only if you pay for them 🏴☠️
We’re running out of safe havens to host, I feel. Countries that won’t submit to the industry’s will. With the additional clamping down on material not government-sanctioned recently, with invasive biometric and ID checks, it certainly feels like the wrong direction.
They tried to kill piracy so many times, and it never worked.
They will try again and fail again. And the best of it is that sales won’t go up anyway because the problem is not piracy, is their own greed.
If they somehow manage to completely kill piracy, I won’t be able to pay for every streaming service anyway because I don’t have the time to enjoy them all nor I think they are worth my money at all.
Even if the internet dies.
Sneaker net was here before . And will be here afterwards…
We’ll just start doing what we did before the internet: go to each other homes and copy from their source.
I already have more media than I could watch in a lifetime on a home server, if we lose new media I can happily enjoy the old stuff for decades to come
Someone will figure out a way to allow micro-transactions where you pay a small fee to piggyback on existing subscriptions, so you don’t have to pay for everything, you can just drop three bucks to use part of an account that a subscriber isn’t using
Meanwhile NZB will still exist and never targeted. Funny how they hate torrents so much when NZB is superior and easier.
Host? Sounds like a problem I’m too “several large HDDs” to understand.
If companies are allowed unlicensed access (AI training) to media en masse I don’t see a reason everyone else shouldn’t have that either.
Perhaps even a crime.
where owning media is considered a luxury.
Much more likely that it will simply be impossible to legally own any media.
Back when people bought analog media, I don’t know if it was fully spelled out what you did and didn’t actually own. Obviously you didn’t own the copyright to whatever it is you were buying. But, you did own the physical item. What rights were transferred to you when you bought the record in the record store? Probably an unlimited right to play the record at home, but not the right to play it in a dance club. I wonder if the “copyright license” was ever actually spelled out though.
In the digital era there is no longer any physical item to own, and since you never did own the “information” encoded into the physical medium, ownership of digital files is already on shaky ground. In the past you could buy MP3s, and these days it’s still occasionally possible to buy DRM-free e-books. But I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future just having media stored locally will be presumed to be illegal.
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Your local Library has videos.
not everyone lives in countries with local libraries that have videos
that’s true
My local torrent site has them without getting off the couch.
True, but if you get a walk to the library it is both healthy and you support your local library (more users means more funding hopefully).
Not in all countries.
I’ve got no way to play DVDs though I’d have to go and buy a DVD player. Streaming content is much more convenient I would like to be able to do it legally and without hassle. But the content creating companies don’t seem to be interested in providing me an option to do that.
Anyway my local library isn’t really that local it’s a 25-minute drive and probably an hour plus walk up a really steep hill.
Oh no not having to leave my house or get a little bit of exercise or go outside!
Except I didn’t actually say that. I said that going to a physical location and getting a physical disk and then driving all the way back home is considerably less convenient than streaming content.
I get that this isn’t an option for everyone. Part of why I wrote it in such big text without any qualifiers is that it is an option for a significant amount of people, yet frequently gets completely overlooked.
But I gotta ask
Why would you make a 25-munute drive but stop at the bottom of the hill? Why not just drive the rest of the way up?
Why should I put in effort, they don’t, the content creators don’t.
The content creators have not built a method via which I can legitimately give them money. If they wish to do that then we can talk but they apparently are not interested.
I have no idea what an earth it is that you think I should do instead, clearly you are an intellectual though so I would value your input.
For high cost production that takes tens or hundreds of people to make, it’s usually not up to the actual artists and creators how their stuff gets distributed. That’s up to the publishers. They kinda… destroyed their older distribution methods, each one chasing the impossible goal of a streaming monopoly.
For some people, local Libraries are an option. If that isn’t feasible, there are other options. Legal or otherwise. Whatever works, works. Most artists care more that you engage with their work, than how you got a hold of it. They already got paid, and residuals are less and less offered (or weaseled out of) by the publishers.
I just don’t want to have to pay for anything
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I’m happy to favour things they are just not giving me a convenient way to give them money.
There aren’t stairs?
Support your local library
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I just got mine set up with a custom domain name and CloudFlare tunnel, it seems to work a treat. Now to start selling user accounts… 🤔
Gods I could never figure out how in the hell to get Tunnels working, though I’d like to try it again someday and use one of my domains. For now Tailscale works.
I actually tried for two days to figure it out, and failed, and gave up. Then I came back monthly later and tried again, and it worked in 20 minutes. The CloudFlare UX is atrocious and exceptionally confusing. I still don’t know what I did differently to make it work.
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Luckily I saved all of my blu-rays. And, bonus: they’re all good movies from before Disney went to shit
That must mean you have the original Lilo & Stitch.
Excellent.
That one is on DVD, actually
Wait, did they mess with lilo and stitch?
you got Blu Rays from before Steamboat Willy?
Disney has always been shit, especially their business practices.
Burn your physical media now folks. The powers that be are purposely limiting physical media so the have an excuse to phase it out
instructions unclear, set fire to my entire DVD collection
Or save them redundantly to several archive-quality hdds. Why have 20 blu-ray dvds for one copy of a collection when you could have 3 complete copies on 3 hdd. Both are life limited media, both will eventually require re-archiving. One has potential for mechanical failure, the other more likely to physically degrade. Pick your poison, or do one of each.
Just the other day I learned about m-discs, so burn to that for archiving using your BR burner.
Never heard of them, had to look it up. Seems kinda a spotty record depending on the manufacturer.
No they’re not, hard drives are for sale everywhere and not being phased out any time soon.
I was talking about blu-rays
Why not talk about floppy discs?
Just because Blu-Rays are going away, does not mean physical media is going away. We have better physical media options, use them.
While we do have floppy disks, the storage capacity limitations do not make them practical in today’s era
I wouldn’t consider floppies superior to Blu-ray.
“The powers that be” aren’t doing some kind of nefarious thing here. Physical media is only worth producing if they’re doing it at incredibly high volumes. The smaller the run, the more expensive it is for each individual unit. Fewer and fewer people are buying, and there are fewer and fewer physical devices out there capable of playing the media.
For them, it’s a simple calculation of the cost of producing physical media, getting it from the factory to stores, paying the stores to shelve it, etc. vs. simply having a website with media files on it.
While there are some people who still prefer physical media, for the most part consumers also prefer just going to a website and clicking a button vs. driving to a store, parking, searching the shelves in the hope they have what they’re looking for, and so-on. In addition, as fewer companies put out physical media, it’s harder to find the physical media you want in the stores, so more people prefer to go online, which leads to less demand for physical media, fewer choices on the shelves, and more demand for streaming.
I’m sure the bonus of consumers rarely having a way to view a movie or listen to a song an unlimited number of times without paying is something the media companies also enjoy. But, the main reason physical media is disappearing isn’t some kind of conspiracy by the mysterious “powers that be”, it’s a simple profit calculation by accountants at Sony and Disney.
Genuinely curious how are publishers limiting physical media? I haven’t bought a blu-ray in a long while.
Almost all big box stores are significantly limiting or completely removing physical media from their stores
Yeah, but that’s not some massive conspiracy to remove them. They just don’t sell, like CDs before them. Blu-ray never really won its format war. It just staved off the execution of discs for a few years.
£25 for one movie is a hard sell when it will come to Disney+ in a month. Even more so when it can get you a VPN for 6 months and you can have it now.
You should go to the flea market. No recent things but lots of choice for maximum 3€ the DVD.
I haven’t bought a blu-ray in a long while.
Exactly!
Don’t forget to check your local libraries too, folks.
Oh also 🏴☠️
Those are the same things
It would be a funny comment if that were not a very real attack used against libraries.
It’s not an attack on libraries or funny, it’s a legitimate point about digital libraries that our repressive regime deems fit to burn regularly.
how about fucking don’t? Local Libraries are our friends!
That includes online digital libraries!
So are your local pirates. Where would we be without rippers, uploaders and seeders?
Libraries are not pirates, and both being our friends doesn’t make them the same thing.
missing the point.
I think I did, what is it?
its a figure of speech, but that’s not important right now.
Local Libraries allows us to lend media in a social way, and just like the Internet Archive are an important pillar to our society. But thats not how Media Companies see it that way and compares the Internet Archive with Piracy.
Torrenting is fine and dandy though, so is Soulseeking.
I started building an all-BluRay collection back in 2018. I saw the writing on the wall when I would go to watch a movie with friends on streaming and it would be gone.
Almost all of my favorite movies are mine now. I see a lot of comments talking about pirating, but for me personally, the display I get and being able to just have guests grab from the wall is a lot cooler than scrolling.
Not to mention, some of them are quite collectible. It’s neat having some movies that are really rare and I know I had to work to find them.
I highly suggest that you make ripped backups. I learned the hard way, I digitised my grandfather’s CD collection and some of his DVDs, some of which were already damaged beyond repair. Some of his broken DVDs are less than 20 years old. They are not scratched, they are in mint condition.
Yeah. Was thinking of starting that this year. Getting ready to switch my last Windows machine to Linux and it’s the one running the BluRay drive. Linux is way easier to rip with.
Nah ain’t doing movies and shows physical media, I only watch things once. Torrent it is
Same bro. I don’t get people who want to watch Dirty Dancing and The Lion King two million times. It’s good but… I want new things! New experiences! I get bored revisiting what I already know.
There is a difference between how people watch stuff and how much they remember. I also can’t rewatch anything within a decade, because I remember every single line. My wife didn’t remember what that episode was about a week later. Sometimes I envy her, because I constantly need to look for new stuff, which might or might not be good. she can just rewatch something and she knows that she likes it. Of course this is exaggerated, but I guess you get the point.
I totally get it, yeah. I don’t remember everything, definitely, but I remember the vibe, and if I have the vibe, I’m good with it.
Im like you. I’m a “give me new things”.
it took me a few years to understand. Especially since I have a coworker who shared she plays the Office in the background, nearly every day for a few years.
It’s comfort food for them. Why do some people play 1000+ hours of the same mobile games? Why do some people do those thousand piece puzzles?
It’s just comfort and consistency.
That’s exactly what fits the mould of my wife as well. She watches old stuff for comfort. Makes perfect sense. 👍
You dont have a favourite show or movie?
I’m like the OP. I watch it once.
If I want to watch it again, which hasn’t been the case for over a decade:
- Find the physical version. Often at a thrift store
- Sail the open seas
I do but that doesn’t mean I will re watch it over and over
Literally the only benefit to paying for streaming over hosting your own stuff is discovery. So if the service sucks ass at that, it serves literally no benefit.
Yep! It’s how I learned about that Poop Cruise documentary. Or Tiger King. Or all the trash Isekai.
Things I would never walk into a store and just outright buy them. And if I did, it would be like $10-50 bucks, the price of the subscription.
I miss some of those great DVD extras.
In the movie, Robert Downey Jr’s said he didn’t break character until he finished do the DVD commentary. He was in character when he did the DVD commentary.
There was a special edition of Buckaroo Banzai with an onscreen commentary that pointed out that Buckaroo was carrying Einstein’s brain with him when he entered dimension 8
In the movie, Robert Downey Jr’s character said…
I know you’re talking about Tropic Thunder, but how many other people would?
That’s a great point because my first thought was Iron Man, which would also be believable. XD
I’ll edit. I would have sworn I mentioned the title. Silly me
Anybody who has seen Tropic Thunder.
I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make. Not giving the name of the movie means either the comment wasn’t for you (because you already know it), or that it doesn’t actually help you.
The extended DVD for 40 Year Old Virgin features all the “how I know you’re gay” that didn’t make the movie itself. I giggled extensively.
It’s just a shame that DVDs and Blu-Rays for new movies aren’t really made anymore. They’re just leaving money on the table at this point that bootleggers in Malaysia are getting instead.
But still, absolutely. DVD all the way. I fixed the cord I cut back in 2015 and I’m much better off for it.
They come out with new releases all the time. Brick and mortar stores just don’t always carry them. In the past year Target and Best Buy stopped. Here’s a list of physical media that came out this week: https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=36930
Everyone seems to be telling me that there’s still new releases, but seemingly not for anything I’m interested in. The last Blu-Ray I’ve been able to pick up was WandaVision. There was a time where basically 100% of movies got physical releases and, acknowledging confirmation bias, it does feel like those times are gone.
What are the movies that haven’t gotten releases you’ve wanted? For me anything I’ve wanted has gotten a release lately, but I don’t watch the most niche movies. So perhaps that’s my confirmation bias
There are still DVDs and Blurays being made for new movies. Some movies are 100% digital, but in my experience they tend to be the ones that the streaming platforms produce themselves and they have an interest in keeping people on their service.
But most other movies still get dvds and blurays made and are still sold in stores.
I guess it’s not technically a new movie, but I just bought the 4k blu ray rerelease of Dark City that came out this year. So there are still some new releases in the format.
Just use jellyfish or kodi
I could not get jellyfish to work
Try Jellyfin instead.
All these one size fits all media servers are aweful, i use rygel for now but it chokes on larger collections.
Maybe because its supposed to just be the jelly"fin" and not the whole fish. Might have complicated things for you.
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